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Creation Date: Fri Aug  2 08:37:25 2002
Channel Name:  bovine

(note - most recent messages are displayed at the bottom)
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 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Draak@alter draak: The lookout yells,
'There's a river far to the east!'

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: I'm in the room with the innkeeper
offering rooms for rent, and typing list shows the sintax  should be
buy service special. However, that returns a line saying no one is
offering that here

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: that is in the new area

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Corvus: yeah, he also doesn't give the key
when given the gold

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Sport: put it in bug report for faster
service

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Corvus: it's been reported

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: oh I was asking here incase I was
missing something obvious

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Coyote: what the Hakuna Matata am I running

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Sport: walk instead

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: what in the world is this guy doing
in a level 34 area

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: 501k xp from Danor, master of
illusions

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: that took four high level players

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Mink: maybe he  washiding  there  because he
 was  master of illusions?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Sirand: any way to find out how many docks
we have used with out boats?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Sirand: with our boats

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Sov: four high level players doing what?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: killing a mob in a level 34 area

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: it apparently was a struggle to
kill it even for level 40s

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Sov: no i know, i was being a jerk, sorry

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Sov: it just wasn't that hard and i was
scoffing

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Sov: but i feel bad now, i'm just tired

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: I'm also tired, so yeah

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: does changing gender reset your
description?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: my description is reset, I had a
description from before the change and now it's gone... this is the
only thing I could think of. I never touched it otherwise

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: would make sense with how the
autogenerated descriptions work

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: bleh

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: but also that sucks :(

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: would be cool if it was mentioned
somewhere?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: this sucks

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: oh damn, I was goign to do it, thanks
for taking one for the team!

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: I want it back

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: what was it before

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: why can't we have cool things

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: stuipd spammers ruining it for the rest
of us

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: would be neat to have a set pronouns
X Y Z thing

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: because people made their desc to
sexual, or was it the silly noise, or maybe a bit of both

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: yeah but why ruin it for the rest of us
who haven't done something wrong

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: and people still have old descriptions
anyway

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: heh true

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Earthshaker: Bit of both I'd suppose, but
possible crash crash phrases? Some still use Eloquence.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: since that's the only real impact
the sex change spell has functionally when printing strings... Or when
people look at you I guess

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: it was something dog related, I don't
even remember it. but I liked it and now it's gone

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: I dont' think it's crashwords as the
game filters it anyways

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: shryth wrote it lol

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: I did?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: yes

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: I might have it then, lemme look

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: the dog standing in front of you is a
fluffy one, somethign like that

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: as long as willy and proserpine's desc
is kept, I'm ok, they are master pieces and sould never be removed

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: yeah but if someone is spamming with
descriptions aren't there rules for that, rules against spam? why
destory it for the rest of us who haven't done something wrong

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: yeah wasn't sure on offical reason why
desc was removed, because people can set silly things like ttiles, url,
not as long ,but then history and personality

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: you can still spam with history and
personality, I guess remove that too heh

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: lol I didn't even knwo I had one

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: The dog in front of you is a tiny
one, covered head to toe in fluffy white fur. It has a short but fluffy
tail that seems to wag constantly and a pair of big floppy ears that
twitch at the smallest sound. Its chocolate brown eyes scan the
surrounding area, looking for food or something interesting to chew on.


 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: there's so many ways to spam, setting
crash words for screen readers as titles

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: aww

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: I mean it's ok, have it reset, but it's
not even mentioned in the help file or anywhere else

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: I don't believe you can set titles
with crash words

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: and anyway most of them are patched
on modern syntsh

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: synths

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: can you set crash words on descs

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: you can't set descs anymore

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: so ono

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: no

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: so you can set crash words on the
multi line editor?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: there was a crash word I saw that I am
pretty sure wasn't filtered when I tried it. that was 2 years ago. I
need to find it

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: there is spam on boards. spam on room
descs in clans. spam on history, personality, but it was descriptiosn
that had to go heh

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Revenant: dog, try set description restore
-force

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: that worked, thanks!

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: oooo

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: it's back!

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Revenant: NP, found it in change search. was
a while back

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: yeah I think descriptions being
removed was super dumb

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Revenant: IIRC it was something to do with
idiots  triggering a million mush sounds when you looked at them. 

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: so just ban those people

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Revenant: well, I'd agree buuuut 

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: you can still set your history I
think, maybe express yourself there?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: rather than ruining the fun for
everyone else. I recall a grand total of like, three people that had
anything in their descriptions that could even come close to being
objectively considered sound spam.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: three people is still like 6% of the
players :P

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: and there are still people who have
noise spam description

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Revenant: Well, I miss my bunny  
describtions 

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: nod

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: and my fox descriptions :(

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: I still enjoy my Saeed description.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: Lovingly stereotypical

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: dentin should come exp with us

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: i #deathmarch

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: maybe we can do one for solstice

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: no starving rock over a deathmarch
all day

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: deathmarch you guys through some of
those super angel dinos Morpheus made on crepuscula

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: dentin is waiting for his epithelial
elevator cells in his lungs to grow back

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Pylus: The last one we had at the opening of
nm8 was great, dmg wrapping and actually healing people rofl.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dex: yall aint ready lmaoo

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Red: last time he joined he didn't get xp,
so he shouldn't come

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Pylus: oh yeah those will work well.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: ow, my aveoli!

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: are you a smoker

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: alter aeon should have a stock
exchange, where we can invest in shops and player shops

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: I'd make a killing on vemarken with
newbies buying shit eq

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: I'd have to add inflation and other
proper econ system aspects to make that work

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: do you want to be responsible for
adding inflation to the mud?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: yes

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: oh god please no

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: I think there's available shops in
vemarken, just go set up camp there

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: as long as I get in an early start in
investing I'm ok with it

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Red: we need another shop in there, there is
only 1 player shop

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: can alter IPO

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: I don't want to run shops, I want to
own stocks in shops

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: I think clan wolf is a minority
shareholder as an entity

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: you can do that without needing any
explicit game system

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: just work it out with the owner
directly

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: nah, market economies don't work when
the market consists of like 100 people

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: you are still thinking oldschool

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: it's a modern world

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: AA still operates on the barter system

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Red: buy stocks in my shopk, it's great, we
found a way to dupicate gold so we have neough money to buy lots of
shit

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: oh and it doesn't help that you can
literally farm infinite amounts of things with time

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: I want to buy a stake in the gambling
market

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: like 5 percent of all gambled gold

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Red: haha yeah

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: dentin back me up on this

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Red: is it time to bring out chance again!

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: yeah actually

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: run it till august

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: gambling should be regulated, only
available in certain casinos in certain areas, not worldwide

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: and you could buy stocks in gambling
dens!

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: I need to figure out how get the
tarot game so players can player it against each othre

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: players can play it

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Red: oo

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: is there a hand chart

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Red: can  we play snap

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: what do you mean "hand chart"?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: 'gamble deck' will show a list of all
the cards

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: player shops exist but most of them are
either dead or run by one guy who already has too much gold so he
doesnt even care or clans having monopolies on shops

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: the whole game still runs on "ill just
trade you this sword for 3m and some spellcomps" like its 2003

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: instead of hoarding 20 million in the
bank i could dump 20m into a vemarken shop and actually get a cut every
time some level 8 noob buys a rusty sword

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: sounds like you'd never get 20m back

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: thats why I'd diversify

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: I mean if the game runs for like 150
years

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Red: newb hey guys, I'm an old player here,
did you know rusty sowrds are great here?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: I'd convince noobs to buy rusty swords
dont worry

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: don't worry you wouldn't make any
money. morpheus advises newbies to just kill everything they see that's
not in a city and not buy stuff because the eq for killing is better
than that in shops

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Red: in business, we need to take out
morpheus

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: there's other shops to invest into yo

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: cross my heart till the sky turns
red from the sunrise / be all right

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: I hoard all my millions in the bank
instead of buying shops in vemarken

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: Dog gonna corner the rusty sword
market

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: buy the bank.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Pylus: new job, bank heist.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: if you don't kill everything you
will never find the eq in an area.. trust me newbie shops sell eq but
its not profitable.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Red: just wondering what changed in the mud
to change credits = to 1 mill gold to what it is now?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: I've actually thought about adding a
'burglary' skill that would be a sort of mini-game that simulated
breaking into the background buildings in towns

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Red: fun

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Pylus: oo

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: dentin serious question

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: but how would that help us with xp

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Pylus: that sounds fun.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Red: thief job

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: are there manuel controlls for fixing
global dent

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: I have kinda ran most areas down over
the last two ish months

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: also if the burglary skill gives us
gold it would probably just get dented due to the gold offset

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: tell me that it's gonna / tell me
that it's gonna be all right woah oh woah oh

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: nm doesn't cap now

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: get little bits of gold and random
objects, maybe the occassional pie off a window shelf

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: I dont even know how the autodenter
works these days, but I assume it's probably fine

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: and more distract plans too

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: and if not, how long of not running
an area does it take to get back to normal

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: it's kinda not but

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: adding more ways to gain gold doesn't
actually increase the gold. it just gives you more ways to get the same
amount of gold then it's just a matter of gold per hour.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: most group areas that are big enough
for the groups I get everyday give good xp

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: depends  on group size of area and
group size running it. 

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: no longer give*

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: dentin sitting on millions in the bank
while saying shops in vemarken arent worth it is exactly why the
economy is fucked

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: I mean if 14 people are in nm7 and 8
and it's not even half capping for most mobs

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: if a group of 25 is running a
group 7 area it can take  a little while for it to recoop.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: that's probably not ok

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: the reasonw hy a group mob doesn't
give good exp is usually because it didn't deal enough damage to the
group members

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: heh

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: the offsets actually have a
forgetting term so they forget about gold stored on pfiles not moving
around

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: right but then I'm getting less xp by
keeping my group alive and being smart about saves and stuff?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Druidia: that will learn ya to kill mobs 
too mfast. gotta let a few people die every now and then

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: yes judas

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: that seems kinda wrong...

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: it's alwyas been this way take more
risks = more exp. take more risks

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: if I get a bunch of people killed the
total expected exp will go down

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: the biggest thing for me is that I
can leave nm8 alone for two plus weeks, come back, and I know
absolutely no one has been there since, and it's still less than half
caps.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: playerbase is also quite active right
now, so it's normal now to get a group of 10 if not 15 every day

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: so I mean unless the solution is just
stop playing alter for six months lol

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: are caps even the expectation when
you are in an area appropriate size and level group?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: I mean, isn't that the exp goal?
half the cap?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: my personal expectation is 3 quarter
caps

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Asuka: why oesn't changelog show dates fr
latest entries anymore?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: just an oversight that happens
from time to time. xxx should be last saturday's date I think.

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Mouserat: all good, just editing allias
until i figure it out :D

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Mouserat: i'm trying to set a conditional in
the alia to figure out if a var is empty, then set it as another value

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Mouserat: finnaly it works.

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: so I just listened to the update from
may, fax you ned a new tts man

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: that thing is horrid

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: *cough* that wasn't TTS

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: what is that

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: then

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: it sounds like a tts

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: his son iirc

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: wait wha?

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: rofl

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: bro no way

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: you can hear the artifacts in the
voice

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: that's not a person

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: bro its dectalk

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: just use 11labs next time 

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: I think its free for a few mins

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: ok, nvm... I think I was thinking
of the April one

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: oh oh

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Dog: hahahahah

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: no the may one. is not a person

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: yeah the May 2026 one sounds like
FliteTTS

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: I remembered when you said that
that there was one with his son and another with tts, the may one is
definitely tts

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: I was gonna say no way

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: yeah, sorry about that. I'm glda I
checked my own claim, because that would have been embarrasing 

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: amusingly Little Fax was more
inteligible to lsiten to than the tts

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: that's Doctor Sbaitso, show some
respect

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: he's older than some of you people

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: FYI we haven't use day and night
descs in over 20 years. 

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: are all room descs static now or
are they affected more autonymously now?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: autonomously*

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: I don't know what you mean by
that?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: the whole day night thing  was
just  having to make 2 different descs, when you can make the desc  in
such a manner that having 2 wasn't needed so most went that direction.
90% or more don't read longs unless their forced to anyway. So why come
up with 2 different ones?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: besides  day/night cycle  isn't
anything it used to be.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: - There are 144 ticks in an AA
day, so days are about 70 minutes long. 

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: ah I see

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Silverclaw: how come shadowwalk cannot enter
an exit that is too small to enter normally but force me to use a size-
equipment just to enter. 

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Silverclaw: shadowwalk should be ignoring
size restrictions

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: why

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: not true  it obeys all other
estrictions toehr than light

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: you can't wlak through doors..
can't  walk through walls.. 

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Silverclaw: ... but i cant enter an exit
that can be entered with size-

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: all other physical restriction all
still prevent you  so size would too.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: make  a  neg size  shadow walk
set. 

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Silverclaw: its shadowwalk. lol oh well nvm.
noted

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: shaddow walk doesn't mean you turn
into a shadow or something

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Silverclaw: that is my assumption that i
turn into shadow n pass thru holes not normally passable but its ok

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: yeah that's the wrong assumption to
make

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: isn't that why people used shadow
walk in groups because it could pass through things the group often
couldn't? Maybe it wasn't size... I dont' remember the exact
restriction

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: as for eating stuff, IDK, vampires
drink blood, zombie eat brains, ghouls eat meat, something's going on

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: yeah, guess the context of that
mistell

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Noryn: skeletons.... drink milk?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: got milk?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: yes. yes you did.

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dentin: hrm

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Acer: is it possible to enter a command to
see how many micro levels it will take to level a particular class that
is far beyond your current level in that class?