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Creation Date: Fri Aug  2 08:37:25 2002
Channel Name:  bovine

(note - most recent messages are displayed at the bottom)
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 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafa_Sardina

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: caused by the light of venus
filtering through swamp gas under a new moon

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Rafa: my gas is real 

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Rafa: trust me, it fills my head

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: Rafa Sardina is a Basque, intersting

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Xoria: Whoa! Bamboo as a gatherable wood,
that's new!

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: yes it is

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Xoria: XD XD

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Draak@alter draak: The lookout yells,
'There's a river far to the east!'

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: I'm in the room with the innkeeper
offering rooms for rent, and typing list shows the sintax  should be
buy service special. However, that returns a line saying no one is
offering that here

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: that is in the new area

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Corvus: yeah, he also doesn't give the key
when given the gold

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Sport: put it in bug report for faster
service

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Corvus: it's been reported

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: oh I was asking here incase I was
missing something obvious

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Coyote: what the Hakuna Matata am I running

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Sport: walk instead

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: what in the world is this guy doing
in a level 34 area

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: 501k xp from Danor, master of
illusions

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Judas: that took four high level players

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Mink: maybe he  washiding  there  because he
 was  master of illusions?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Sirand: any way to find out how many docks
we have used with out boats?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Sirand: with our boats

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Sov: four high level players doing what?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: killing a mob in a level 34 area

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: it apparently was a struggle to
kill it even for level 40s

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Sov: no i know, i was being a jerk, sorry

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Sov: it just wasn't that hard and i was
scoffing

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Sov: but i feel bad now, i'm just tired

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: I'm also tired, so yeah

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: does changing gender reset your
description?

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: my description is reset, I had a
description from before the change and now it's gone... this is the
only thing I could think of. I never touched it otherwise

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Shryth: would make sense with how the
autogenerated descriptions work

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: bleh

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Shryth: but also that sucks :(

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: would be cool if it was mentioned
somewhere?

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: this sucks

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Wily: oh damn, I was goign to do it, thanks
for taking one for the team!

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: I want it back

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Wily: what was it before

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: why can't we have cool things

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: stuipd spammers ruining it for the rest
of us

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Shryth: would be neat to have a set pronouns
X Y Z thing

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Wily: because people made their desc to
sexual, or was it the silly noise, or maybe a bit of both

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: yeah but why ruin it for the rest of us
who haven't done something wrong

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: and people still have old descriptions
anyway

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Wily: heh true

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Earthshaker: Bit of both I'd suppose, but
possible crash crash phrases? Some still use Eloquence.

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Shryth: since that's the only real impact
the sex change spell has functionally when printing strings... Or when
people look at you I guess

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: it was something dog related, I don't
even remember it. but I liked it and now it's gone

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Wily: I dont' think it's crashwords as the
game filters it anyways

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: shryth wrote it lol

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Shryth: I did?

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: yes

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Shryth: I might have it then, lemme look

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: the dog standing in front of you is a
fluffy one, somethign like that

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Wily: as long as willy and proserpine's desc
is kept, I'm ok, they are master pieces and sould never be removed

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: yeah but if someone is spamming with
descriptions aren't there rules for that, rules against spam? why
destory it for the rest of us who haven't done something wrong

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Wily: yeah wasn't sure on offical reason why
desc was removed, because people can set silly things like ttiles, url,
not as long ,but then history and personality

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: you can still spam with history and
personality, I guess remove that too heh

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Wily: lol I didn't even knwo I had one

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Shryth: The dog in front of you is a tiny
one, covered head to toe in fluffy white fur. It has a short but fluffy
tail that seems to wag constantly and a pair of big floppy ears that
twitch at the smallest sound. Its chocolate brown eyes scan the
surrounding area, looking for food or something interesting to chew on.


 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: there's so many ways to spam, setting
crash words for screen readers as titles

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Wily: aww

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: I mean it's ok, have it reset, but it's
not even mentioned in the help file or anywhere else

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Xzibit: I don't believe you can set titles
with crash words

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Xzibit: and anyway most of them are patched
on modern syntsh

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Xzibit: synths

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Wily: can you set crash words on descs

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Xzibit: you can't set descs anymore

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Xzibit: so ono

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Xzibit: no

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Wily: so you can set crash words on the
multi line editor?

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: there was a crash word I saw that I am
pretty sure wasn't filtered when I tried it. that was 2 years ago. I
need to find it

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: there is spam on boards. spam on room
descs in clans. spam on history, personality, but it was descriptiosn
that had to go heh

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Revenant: dog, try set description restore
-force

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: that worked, thanks!

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Wily: oooo

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Wily: it's back!

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Revenant: NP, found it in change search. was
a while back

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Xzibit: yeah I think descriptions being
removed was super dumb

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Revenant: IIRC it was something to do with
idiots  triggering a million mush sounds when you looked at them. 

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Xzibit: so just ban those people

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Revenant: well, I'd agree buuuut 

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Eggweard: you can still set your history I
think, maybe express yourself there?

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Xzibit: rather than ruining the fun for
everyone else. I recall a grand total of like, three people that had
anything in their descriptions that could even come close to being
objectively considered sound spam.

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Shryth: three people is still like 6% of the
players :P

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: and there are still people who have
noise spam description

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Revenant: Well, I miss my bunny  
describtions 

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Xzibit: nod

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Shryth: and my fox descriptions :(

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Xzibit: I still enjoy my Saeed description.

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Xzibit: Lovingly stereotypical

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: dentin should come exp with us

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: i #deathmarch

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Draak: maybe we can do one for solstice

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: no starving rock over a deathmarch
all day

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Draak: deathmarch you guys through some of
those super angel dinos Morpheus made on crepuscula

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dentin: dentin is waiting for his epithelial
elevator cells in his lungs to grow back

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Pylus: The last one we had at the opening of
nm8 was great, dmg wrapping and actually healing people rofl.

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dex: yall aint ready lmaoo

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Red: last time he joined he didn't get xp,
so he shouldn't come

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Pylus: oh yeah those will work well.

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Draak: ow, my aveoli!

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: are you a smoker

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: alter aeon should have a stock
exchange, where we can invest in shops and player shops

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: I'd make a killing on vemarken with
newbies buying shit eq

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dentin: I'd have to add inflation and other
proper econ system aspects to make that work

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dentin: do you want to be responsible for
adding inflation to the mud?

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: yes

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: oh god please no

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dentin: I think there's available shops in
vemarken, just go set up camp there

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: as long as I get in an early start in
investing I'm ok with it

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Red: we need another shop in there, there is
only 1 player shop

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: can alter IPO

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: I don't want to run shops, I want to
own stocks in shops

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: I think clan wolf is a minority
shareholder as an entity

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Runner: you can do that without needing any
explicit game system

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Runner: just work it out with the owner
directly

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Ivey: nah, market economies don't work when
the market consists of like 100 people

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: you are still thinking oldschool

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: it's a modern world

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Ivey: AA still operates on the barter system

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Red: buy stocks in my shopk, it's great, we
found a way to dupicate gold so we have neough money to buy lots of
shit

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Ivey: oh and it doesn't help that you can
literally farm infinite amounts of things with time

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: I want to buy a stake in the gambling
market

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: like 5 percent of all gambled gold

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Red: haha yeah

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: dentin back me up on this

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Red: is it time to bring out chance again!

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: yeah actually

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: run it till august

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: gambling should be regulated, only
available in certain casinos in certain areas, not worldwide

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: and you could buy stocks in gambling
dens!

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Draak: I need to figure out how get the
tarot game so players can player it against each othre

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Draak: players can play it

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Red: oo

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: is there a hand chart

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Red: can  we play snap

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Draak: what do you mean "hand chart"?

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Draak: 'gamble deck' will show a list of all
the cards

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: player shops exist but most of them are
either dead or run by one guy who already has too much gold so he
doesnt even care or clans having monopolies on shops

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: the whole game still runs on "ill just
trade you this sword for 3m and some spellcomps" like its 2003

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: instead of hoarding 20 million in the
bank i could dump 20m into a vemarken shop and actually get a cut every
time some level 8 noob buys a rusty sword

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Runner: sounds like you'd never get 20m back

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: thats why I'd diversify

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: I mean if the game runs for like 150
years

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Red: newb hey guys, I'm an old player here,
did you know rusty sowrds are great here?

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: I'd convince noobs to buy rusty swords
dont worry

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Ivey: don't worry you wouldn't make any
money. morpheus advises newbies to just kill everything they see that's
not in a city and not buy stuff because the eq for killing is better
than that in shops

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Red: in business, we need to take out
morpheus

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: there's other shops to invest into yo

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dentin: cross my heart till the sky turns
red from the sunrise / be all right

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dentin: I hoard all my millions in the bank
instead of buying shops in vemarken

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Draak: Dog gonna corner the rusty sword
market

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Eggweard: buy the bank.

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Pylus: new job, bank heist.

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Morpheus: if you don't kill everything you
will never find the eq in an area.. trust me newbie shops sell eq but
its not profitable.

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Red: just wondering what changed in the mud
to change credits = to 1 mill gold to what it is now?

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Draak: I've actually thought about adding a
'burglary' skill that would be a sort of mini-game that simulated
breaking into the background buildings in towns

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Red: fun

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Pylus: oo

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: dentin serious question

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Ivey: but how would that help us with xp

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Pylus: that sounds fun.

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Red: thief job

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: are there manuel controlls for fixing
global dent

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: I have kinda ran most areas down over
the last two ish months

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Ivey: also if the burglary skill gives us
gold it would probably just get dented due to the gold offset

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dentin: tell me that it's gonna / tell me
that it's gonna be all right woah oh woah oh

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: nm doesn't cap now

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Draak: get little bits of gold and random
objects, maybe the occassional pie off a window shelf

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dentin: I dont even know how the autodenter
works these days, but I assume it's probably fine

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Morpheus: and more distract plans too

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: and if not, how long of not running
an area does it take to get back to normal

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: it's kinda not but

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Ivey: adding more ways to gain gold doesn't
actually increase the gold. it just gives you more ways to get the same
amount of gold then it's just a matter of gold per hour.

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: most group areas that are big enough
for the groups I get everyday give good xp

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Morpheus: depends  on group size of area and
group size running it. 

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: no longer give*

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dog: dentin sitting on millions in the bank
while saying shops in vemarken arent worth it is exactly why the
economy is fucked

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: I mean if 14 people are in nm7 and 8
and it's not even half capping for most mobs

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Morpheus: if a group of 25 is running a
group 7 area it can take  a little while for it to recoop.

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: that's probably not ok

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Ivey: the reasonw hy a group mob doesn't
give good exp is usually because it didn't deal enough damage to the
group members

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dentin: heh

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Dentin: the offsets actually have a
forgetting term so they forget about gold stored on pfiles not moving
around

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: right but then I'm getting less xp by
keeping my group alive and being smart about saves and stuff?

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Druidia: that will learn ya to kill mobs 
too mfast. gotta let a few people die every now and then

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Ivey: yes judas

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: that seems kinda wrong...

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Ivey: it's alwyas been this way take more
risks = more exp. take more risks

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: if I get a bunch of people killed the
total expected exp will go down

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: the biggest thing for me is that I
can leave nm8 alone for two plus weeks, come back, and I know
absolutely no one has been there since, and it's still less than half
caps.

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: playerbase is also quite active right
now, so it's normal now to get a group of 10 if not 15 every day

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: so I mean unless the solution is just
stop playing alter for six months lol

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Eggweard: are caps even the expectation when
you are in an area appropriate size and level group?

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Eggweard: I mean, isn't that the exp goal?
half the cap?

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Judas: my personal expectation is 3 quarter
caps

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Asuka: why oesn't changelog show dates fr
latest entries anymore?

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Morpheus: just an oversight that happens
from time to time. xxx should be last saturday's date I think.

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Mouserat: all good, just editing allias
until i figure it out :D

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Mouserat: i'm trying to set a conditional in
the alia to figure out if a var is empty, then set it as another value

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Mouserat: finnaly it works.

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Judas: so I just listened to the update from
may, fax you ned a new tts man

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Judas: that thing is horrid

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Lejaguar: *cough* that wasn't TTS

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Judas: what is that

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Judas: then

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Judas: it sounds like a tts

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Lejaguar: his son iirc

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Judas: wait wha?

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Ivey: rofl

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Judas: bro no way

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Judas: you can hear the artifacts in the
voice

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Judas: that's not a person

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Dog: bro its dectalk

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Dog: just use 11labs next time 

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Dog: I think its free for a few mins

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Lejaguar: ok, nvm... I think I was thinking
of the April one

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Judas: oh oh

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Dog: hahahahah

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Judas: no the may one. is not a person

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Ivey: yeah the May 2026 one sounds like
FliteTTS

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Lejaguar: I remembered when you said that
that there was one with his son and another with tts, the may one is
definitely tts

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Judas: I was gonna say no way

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Lejaguar: yeah, sorry about that. I'm glda I
checked my own claim, because that would have been embarrasing 

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Lejaguar: amusingly Little Fax was more
inteligible to lsiten to than the tts

 (12 hours ago)   [bovine] Draak: that's Doctor Sbaitso, show some
respect

 (12 hours ago)   [bovine] Draak: he's older than some of you people

 (4 hours ago)    [bovine] Morpheus: FYI we haven't use day and night
descs in over 20 years. 

 (4 hours ago)    [bovine] Lejaguar: are all room descs static now or
are they affected more autonymously now?

 (4 hours ago)    [bovine] Lejaguar: autonomously*

 (4 hours ago)    [bovine] Morpheus: I don't know what you mean by
that?

 (4 hours ago)    [bovine] Morpheus: the whole day night thing  was
just  having to make 2 different descs, when you can make the desc  in
such a manner that having 2 wasn't needed so most went that direction.
90% or more don't read longs unless their forced to anyway. So why come
up with 2 different ones?

 (4 hours ago)    [bovine] Morpheus: besides  day/night cycle  isn't
anything it used to be.

 (4 hours ago)    [bovine] Morpheus: - There are 144 ticks in an AA
day, so days are about 70 minutes long. 

 (4 hours ago)    [bovine] Lejaguar: ah I see

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Silverclaw: how come shadowwalk cannot enter
an exit that is too small to enter normally but force me to use a size-
equipment just to enter. 

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Silverclaw: shadowwalk should be ignoring
size restrictions

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Ivey: why

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Morpheus: not true  it obeys all other
estrictions toehr than light

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Morpheus: you can't wlak through doors..
can't  walk through walls.. 

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Silverclaw: ... but i cant enter an exit
that can be entered with size-

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Morpheus: all other physical restriction all
still prevent you  so size would too.

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Morpheus: make  a  neg size  shadow walk
set. 

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Silverclaw: its shadowwalk. lol oh well nvm.
noted

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Ivey: shaddow walk doesn't mean you turn
into a shadow or something

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Silverclaw: that is my assumption that i
turn into shadow n pass thru holes not normally passable but its ok

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Ivey: yeah that's the wrong assumption to
make