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Creation Date: Fri Aug  2 08:37:25 2002
Channel Name:  bovine

(note - most recent messages are displayed at the bottom)
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 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: ROLL THE DICe

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Jasondo: lol, which is pretty much what
dentin  said anyway.

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: You roll a 6 sided die, and it
comes up as 5. I'd say that's bad news, given over half :p

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Jasondo: yeah if you have that you shouldn't
be making children at all, sorry but yeah.

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Rocky: how fast are people killing mobs on
starving rock? 

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: some people are flying

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: like a thousand a day

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: I'm at... I think average 200/day

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Rocky: I have been very relaxed and killed
60 in an hour 

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Rocky: how long did 200 take?

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: I think that rate is probably fair

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: for relaxex

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: relaxed*

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: If you really try, you can probably
double it

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: when I ran a ew days ago we'd get
about 100 an hour

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Rocky: OK assuming 100 for easy calculation,
10k kills will take 100 hours 

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: yes

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: which is viable if difficult for a
serious player

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Rocky: 10 hours a day for 10 days? difficult
indeed 

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: heh

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: 100 is not an upper bound

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Rocky: has anyone listening averaged more?

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: eggweard was crushing them

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: lol

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: I don't know what the actual numbers
are

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: Maybe next year I'll have the
flexibility to do 10 hours a day, but not this year

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: but I would say 100 is a reachable
value for moderately committed people

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: 100 a day?

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: or hour?

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: you'd have to play, for real, but
you would not need to do the absolute maximum rate and nitpick
efficiency on everything to get it

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: why not both?

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: Thing is, that's hard to sustain

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Rocky: full respect to Eggweard, he also has
a job a family and a life, perhaps 200 an hour is possible for him, but
5 hours a day is not  

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: especially solo - Shryth was running
a group of 5-7 people for hours on end

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: I still would love for this
particular event to last more like a month instead of just two weeks

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: Nod

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: Especially with how little time
we're going to have for PW

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: especially with numbers like that

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Darkblood: 10k mobs on starving rock also
takes a while

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Rocky: I am pleased it does not last a year,
an hour a day at my current rate would still take me 6 months 

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: yeah, now schedule just says 'soon'

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: Nod

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: BUt life happens, so

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: 10K over 30 days is 334 mobs per day

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: well then that would be moderate

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: that's 100% doable

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Rocky: only 5 hours relaxed play 

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: definitely

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: indeed

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Darkblood: nod I could pull off 334 in 3 to
4 hours on alma

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: the second run I did gave me about
800 in a day

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: Niice

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: but Egg also was leading the last
bit of that

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: I would not be shocked if things got
extended to allow for mire to actually be run

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: first one I got about 400 in like
4-5 hours or whatever

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: Nod

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: can hope so

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: Definitely hoping for an extention

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: I've felt for years that this event
was too short

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: especially with how you need to take
group size and time zones into account for PW

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: yup

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: On particularly inactive times of
alter aeon, PW's really hard

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: not all of us live in the US or have
weird sleeping patterns that let us be awake at night for those that do

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Rocky: I was away this weekend and away next
week also, so in the next 4 days, 9940 kills, that's 24 hours a day,
100 kills an hour, looks tricky to me 

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: on the other hand, you don't need
need the 10K kills

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Rocky: its a great blast, but 1k starving
rock was enough last year, I'm just hoping in the short time I have
this year I hit a puzzlewood run 

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Dizzy: Just saying? I really, really,
reeeeally hate the you have recently used group summon blah blah no
rejoining for you thing

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Dizzy: can we at least get a timer on it?

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: it's like 5 mins

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Dizzy: like, wait two ticks and try again

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: or relog if you really need to

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Dizzy: ... fair enough

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Dizzy: just trying to hammer this stupid mob
before it regens, again

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: um

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: is it the xorn

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Dizzy: sigh, yes, horrible horrible xorn

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: gr summon

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Dizzy: hang on

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Asuka: hey my payout used to be bigger, does
the extra gold go to clan if you tithe?

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: it's random

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Asuka: O OK,  I guess at one point I thought
it matched your winning score at archery but maybe I wawsx wrong there
too.

 (6 days ago)     [bovine] Earthshaker: Does hailstone really affect
ethereals?

 (6 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: FYI closing the dwarven house area
on archais for a week or so, so I can spice it up and make it more of
an area with meat and purpose.

 (6 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: cool stuff

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: ranked flush

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: ranked flesh

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: also called a beauty pagent

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: Hmm, when doing account password
stuff, my command history gets messed up, and I think it might have to
do with some MUD echo thing, but it might be client-side too... anyone
know?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: that question is confusing

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: I think this is bugged: Defeated 14
waves of monsters in the Puzzlewood Mire of 2025.

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: I've actually only completed like 1

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: feature request: When I am the same
level in two or more classe, I'd like the pose command to choose from
all these classes and not just from my formal primary class. I'm lv40
mage and warr but get to do only mage poses

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: +1

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: someone else has asked me for this
too and I've just been too lazy to do it but maybe Ill get around to it

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: pointless, but yes

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: +1. its worse than that. I grew up
with druid poses only for ever, and as soon as my second class became
40, I am stuck with cleric because alphabet or something

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: if desperate, build it with emote

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: hahaha nods

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: honestly Im shocked people use pose
often enough to notice these things lol

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: do you not identify as a cleric?

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Revenant: or delevel :p

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: no i do not

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: well I identify as a cleric, but it's
4th and pushing it above mage is too hard

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: I just hate the warrior poses

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: push thief faster shryth

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Revenant: why?

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: got it so change it, but also make
necro poses more boring to make up for it

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: think its above warr isnt it

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Deneve: I miss my necro poses

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: if lokar is going to update that code,
can we submit new poses to lokar?!

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: I never made any promises

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: I said I might :P

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: submit poses to lokar for maybes!

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: I like making dumb useless things

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Deneve: I just wanna b nc forever without
affecting my levels

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: people use the pose command?

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: lol

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: yes, because it's neat

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: I used to, but now I scowl at it

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: cos it makes me do lame cleric
things

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Deneve: I feel you egg.

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Revenant: yes!

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: haha can we have pose target other
players and objects like socials? or is that asking too much

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: "Ancient tongueings come forth from
your mouth."

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: okay then

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: hm so I amapparently affected by
something that reduces my colds- and zapsaves massively, and also my
firesave modestly and as far as I can see spellsave too. It is not
showing up on debuff, nor is it showing up on spells that affect me
(perfected spell lore), nor does it go away via lift curse of pureg
blood. It would be cool if it was showing up somewhere

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: is it rust?

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: how would I know? at least it didnt
go away as I switched sets

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: you could always try relogging.
sometimes that stuff is just weird with stats

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Thalia: I used to be good at this game...I
feel like a super n00b now!

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: you need to be good again, how would
you make fun of others if you're like that!

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: that's the real fun!

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: relogging fixd it

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: that does sound like something got in
a broken state then somehow

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: it actually took 2 from spellsave,
9 from cold, 8 from zap, 9 from fire, 4 from reath, and 2 frmo normsave

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: I HAVE AN UNCLE WITH FIVE CATS

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Sturm: sounds like my sister's house

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: I never thought having more than 2
cats was sensible, now I have 4 and I couldnt be happier.

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: I think having more than 0 cats isnt
sensible

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: I will not fall victim to the cat
lobby

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: in fact, getting sibling cats is a
great idea I came to late in life.

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: sounds like vulnerability

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: it wasnt vuln

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: wasnt vuln though, I had no curses
on me and lift curse wouldnt remove

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: he had no curses, couldnt decurse,
had no poisons

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: no debuffs at all

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: it also lasted for at least half an
hour irl

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: I suspect it might be something with
rust messing things up

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: but thats just a theory

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: not sure if rust affects saves. I know
it affects ac

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: doesnt it screw up gear stats or
something? Or am I wrong?

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: it affects ac on armor and damage on
weapons, but not sure about actual stats

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: hrm nod

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: I dont have much experience with rust
tbh heh I assumed it touched everything

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: just ac, however it has to do some
shenannigans to reapply the revised ac

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: were you wearing saving throw eq?

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: yeah he was, we're in puzzlewood and
everyone is

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: feature request, have revenge stack
upon multiple deads

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: half-serious one

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: heh

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: or: all saves including normsalve
+10 at every dead past 1

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: thats what brage is for though

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: except its just normsave but you know
w/e

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: hehe

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: brage basically makes you immortal
for a couple seconds

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: but for brage I need to be dying

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: nod so just take off all your -size
and bathe in the glory that is shard storm

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: np np np

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: for everyone who hasnt braged in
mageclev to shard storm a gang of mobs ... there are few things more
fun

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: <3

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: this is very true it is

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: speaking of, Better at getting
revenge for the fallen!

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: if it doesnt already, it would be
great if low morale would interfere negatively with warcry skills,
especially with roar

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: i.e. a low-moreales roar would have
a lower chance to fear / not eat away as much from valor / bravery

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Edward: When my morale is low I'm winy, and
then you have to be here to watch how people flee before me. It should
be the other way.

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: unsure if misreading, are you wanting
low morale things to be HARDER to roar? Cause that is very counter
intuitive, buf again I may be misunderstanding

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: he wants low morale things to fail
at roaring YOU

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: what eggie said

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: like a race to roar each other
first

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: oh ok that does actually make sense

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: we should be able to hold hands to
enter things with a group, like event join 

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: I actually agree heh

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: maybe not on the holding hands part
though :P

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Thalia: that would be nice

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: no no, holding hands or nothing

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Thalia: yeah, no one wants to hold wily's
hand

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Wily: why not, I washed it last week!

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: I put my hand in his pocket

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: I see shadow decoy deads even
though i have minon spam on

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: would be nice if this wasnt the
case

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Logic: lol what's this This place may harbor
a small amount of a disfigured corpse.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Logic: it appears after surveying the room

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: related to the survey changes put
in last boot. I believe it will be fixed next one

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Logic: I see 

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Clogger: Just curious, can't remember
hearing mention of it, but have the 'journey to X and pray' priest jobs
been removed? This will have been some time ago, if so.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Clogger: Or hmm, maybe I do still get them
rarely. I might just be having a bit of a moment. Certainly muss less
common priest jobs these days if they are still working.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Clogger: Erm, much, even.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Clogger: Ignore my privious question, pretty
sure it was a mixture of brief memory-lapse and I think, at least with
my experience, a reduced frequency of being given those jobs. All good.
Move along, move along.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Clogger: And thanks for the event. Although
It's pretty much impossible for me to get anywhere near the 10k kill
count in Starving Rock, it's still been fun, and no doubt will continue
to be here and there throughout the remainder of the event. Was able to
be round for a run of the big group event area yesterday evening/night,
so glad I made it for that.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Clogger: All work, whether there are issues
or not, is appreciated. Thanks for all the time and effort that's put
in for us to get fun out of it.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Clogger: Heading off for now, folks. I hope
everyone's doing well.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Dex: a brag throw would be cool to calculate
dps

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: man, this model is still thinking

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: What'd you do to it

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: I gave it a small file and told it
to tell me what the code does

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: it's still reading the file

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: I think it's only able to read like
a few words per second, so its just taking a long time

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: local?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: I dont have a graphics card / gpu
that can load the model

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: yeah, its all local

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: nod that'd explain it

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: hrm, maybe I should stop this and
have it do something smaller so I can time the load phase

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: ok, its broken somehow

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: please for next time, can we have
a new leaderboard

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: For mobs, to see which mob killed
the most players.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Talent: rofl

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: lol

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Talent: that would be hilarious

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: I want to see if Khargras or
Mihstu will win.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: we track player deaths

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: mire's actually not getting as many
kills as i thought it would, but it's also feeling slower than usual -
more grindiness means mobs don't scale up as fast

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: I just think it would only be fair
for the mobs to have something to compete for.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: and it would be entertaining for
players to see

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: if a plant monster is big enough,
please can we harvest wood from it?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Xoria: ooooh, good one! Seconded

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: mmm touching mosnter wood

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: monster

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: this is a good-ish idea but probably
need to have exceptions. If you're attacked by some weird giant flower
monster thing it probably doesnt have wood to harvest but is also
probably still a plant monster

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: Exceptions notwithstanding, I
would love to have special monster wood.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: I think also our mushroom mobs might
be designated as plants even though mushrooms are technically not
plants and they also should not produce wood

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: like I said, I think its a good idea,
but the exceptions have to be thought of or the very day it gets added
someones gona go kill a myconid or something and go harvest it for wood
and then make dumb jokes about it :P

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: I will think about them.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: Can we have it be possible to use
the commmand "area exp" with a number argument, to display areas with
double exp at or above that level? and or organize that list by area
level.

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Matrim: hey, I'm curious.

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Matrim: the weather command will unhide me,
but I can do show weather with being unhidden

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Matrim: without*

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Ashes: wtf.. You can't see what you are
carrying, you are invisibleSpell 'detect invisibility', maintained,
level 56 . 

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Runner: it'd be really nice if lightning
flash by a group member wouldn't blind the whole group

 (16 hours ago)   [bovine] Dentin: sploetermann!

 (6 hours ago)    [bovine] Morpheus: sure you can

 (6 hours ago)    [bovine] Morpheus: mt

 (4 hours ago)    [bovine] Morpheus: the whole corpse thing during
survey is a known bug.

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Lindy: can anyone explain why somethings
come up on locate and not others please so confused like looking for a
ruby amulet but nothing is coming up

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: is that the one from tyranids?

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: if so, that area is an instance

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Lindy: not sure but cant find one

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Lindy: all the job says is a ruby amulet

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Lindy: can anyone explain why somethings
come up on locate and not others please so confused like looking for a
ruby amulet but nothing is coming upc locate ruby

 (2 hours ago)    [bovine] Morpheus: the issue with locate is that you
need to use 2 words and even then it don't mean it is loaded when you
locate it.

 (2 hours ago)    [bovine] Morpheus: also loads in an instance, which
locate won't help you.. Maybe ask on auction.  Retrieval jobs like
gather armor or the like are really tough jobs if you don't know the
game  really well.