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Creation Date: Fri Aug  2 08:37:25 2002
Channel Name:  bovine

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 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Buzzbegone: not saying your wrong though.
LOL

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Buzzbegone: well it might kind of. you do
get the chance at any of the gifts. i suppose spending the gold so i
get a get out of death card isn't really so bad.

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Buzzbegone: the problem i seem to be having
is it just won't actually do that task for me

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Vanzan: ya but you know you're gonna get 2
weeks mobile bank time instead

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Buzzbegone: hahahaa probably. :)

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Buzzbegone: i'm one of those that actually
still thinks i'd like the ability to unlearn spells or something though
for the practices back. when i was newer at alter i learned a couple
thigns i really just want gone.

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Buzzbegone: i truly don't want to hear some
garbage about how level 18 back stab could benefit me. if i need comity
i can tur youtube on. what i need is it gone and the practices back.
hahaha

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Buzzbegone: it's all good though

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Sirand: you have achievements available with
backstab.  if you care about that stuff

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Vanzan: also you do want some filler crap
skills and spells in the lineup so when you die it doesn't hit the
'good stuff' haha

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Buzzbegone: yeah but it woudn't bother me to
see those go away or what ever in exchange

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Rhorae: yep I learned carve weapon for the
blackthorn Shillelagh achievement and absolutely no other reason

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Rhorae: I regret nothing

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Juggernaut: same

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Buzzbegone: hmmm i can see a bit of that but
still i think i would have changed a couple things if i'd known what i
know  now

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Buzzbegone: that's all

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Sirand: never know what you may use in the
future.  you may start to like stuff better as you level.  with thief
expeically backstab, steal gold.  shoplift

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Buzzbegone: sadly my thief is way way
behind. i'm 40 necro i think thief  is my 5th class

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Rhorae: oh sure, there's a few skills I prob
wouldn't have bothered with if I was doing this build over again

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Buzzbegone: so i'd have to be on here for a
long time to make that truly effective

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Rhorae: but at high levels a few practices
are so easy to get it hardly matters

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Buzzbegone: i'm foced to go that rout sadly

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Sirand: center is one warrior skill that
reallhy needs a look.  I'd actually like those practices back. lol

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Rhorae: I can't remember for the life of me
what made me, a fifth class cleric, learn the harm spells

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Buzzbegone: yeah it's not everything but
just tiny little tweaks. :D

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Vanzan: but then higher level pracs cast 1
arm 1 leg 14 baby hearts and 11 hours of time to get 1 (not really but
it's getting expenisve)

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Buzzbegone: tiny harm

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Sirand: 48 million per practice for me

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Buzzbegone: ooooof

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Vanzan: l o l

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Rhorae: oof. I'm going to assume pushing
thief up to 16 did that

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Rhorae: er. 36

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Rhorae: not 16 lol

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Buzzbegone: that's a nice chunk of exp

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Sirand: maybe.  someone once told me the
formula but I forgot it.

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Sirand: don't remember what is was before I
leveled.  but it was stil high

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Sirand: is it soley based on fourth class?

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Rhorae: it's based on your most expensive
micro

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Rhorae: which I'm assuming is thief based on
your level spread

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Buzzbegone: oh interesting

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Rhorae: it's some percentage of your most
expensive micro, hm I can calculate that

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Sirand: thief is by far my most expensive. 
180 million per micro

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Buzzbegone: 180 mill? wow!

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Sirand: going for max quad 4 used to be a
thing.  not really anymore

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Vanzan: 38 is max I think now

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Rhorae: my prac cost is 26.7073% of my most
expensive micro. It rounds to the nearest 100 k so that's not the exact
formula but it'll be in that ballpark

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Rhorae: that's one good reason not to buck
the level your cheapest trend. Your exp cap hasn't quite caught up with
that demand

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Buzzbegone: is that right interesting. my
friend would be all over this convo. Mr. math over their

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Vanzan: I don't think it truely catches up
with demand in a relative way, ofc in the early early levels it's
difficult to farm pracs but then there is a sweetspot, and as you get
toward the last 30 or so levels it's much more of a slow grind for
everything you do, getting pracs every 3 micros is a rough slowdown as
well felt most by higher levels out of the sweet spot

 (8 days ago)     [bovine] Sirand: pros and cons to that.  especially
with crafting.  don't want to waste legendary. i have a lot of
equipment to improve.  would not waste a legendary until i'm triple max
level.

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Enra: yeah just catching up here, I don't
even think you can max quad level anmore

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Enra: anymore too

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Rhorae: you can't

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Rhorae: triple 40 38 32 26

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Enra: oh not 33/27 then?

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Enra: to even  the 5 level spread

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Rhorae: no, he said it's more like a 6 level
spread now

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Enra: oh huh

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Earthshaker: When using the eqset thing,
does that generate room strings?

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Naul: i don't see any when other people use
it but i don't know if that's a spam setting

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Earthshaker: Could be "spam wear"?

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Naul: yep yep, external wear/remove

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: only the player sees it if your
not seeing them its a mush issue probably  

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Earthshaker: Oh I didn't know mush filtered
that somehow. Will have to tinker with that.

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Firewolf: okay this sucks

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Firewolf: my daily task is to do the daily
event and i get drunk and it tells me to gift a newwbie and there are
no newbiies to gift

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Firewolf: how am i supposed to do the tzask 

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Potato: wait and gift a newbie?

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Firewolf: only probblem is people have
triggers set  to gift newbies as soon as poSsible

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Naul: you can cure poison yourself and get
drunk again

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Clogger: someone showing now

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Naul: i think you can change your drunk
objective that way

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Firewolf: i would rather die than give a
troll a gift

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Potato: yeah 

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Firewolf: will just reset it

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Clogger: I don't know them, so, shrugs. At
the end of the day it's a bit of exp. No big deal

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Ezechar: has anyone else noticed that
aspects start attacking really late in the battle sometimes?

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Ezechar: although they assist it takes like
a few ticks before they start doing anything

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: probably because of the nomelee
thing.

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Ezechar: I would guess so

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Hyro: yes, I noticed that too.

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Ezechar: sometimes it assist immediately
sometimes it doesn't

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Hyro: also in mid fight, it would stop doing
dmg.

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: maybe email fax, but as has
probably been said it is a work in progress.

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Hyro: yup, will do morph.

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Ezechar: sounds good

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: a few ticks? That seems like an
exageration, I've never had my aspect take multiple ticks to assist -
I'm also very very rarely in fights for multiple ticks too. It can take
a bit sometimes for it to condemn, but its usually doing other
nonsense, and It hink that just might be cause of how specp rates work.


 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Ezechar: well more like 1 - 2

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Ezechar: I've tried withdrawing on my aspect
and once it starts getting attacked it hits immediately lol

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: well yeah it will melee attack if its
being forced in to melee

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Ezechar: so it probably it is a nomelee
problem then

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Hyro: my experience is more in mid fight,
aspect would stop doing any dmg for a tick or two. maybe something to
do with me protecting it, nomelee thingy.

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: You cut deep into the corpse of A
green jellyfish and harvest a tiny bone.

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Pickles: hm

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lepanther: is it intentional that when a
possessed mob sends a tell, it tells the recipient who is controlling
the mob, but a controlled minion, like prepared undead, when ordered to
send a tell, the recipient is not told who was controlling it?

 (7 days ago)     [bovine] Lepanther: jsut to prove my point, someone
ordered their boneman to send me a tell, didn't say who the controller
was, so was just curious whether that was intentional

 (6 days ago)     [bovine] Xoria: can suncatchers be moved if you
accidentally stick them in an instance to charge?

 (6 days ago)     [bovine] Xoria: as in, will the game eject them to
somewhere?

 (6 days ago)     [bovine] Deadinator: Suncatchers aren't allowed in
instances.

 (6 days ago)     [bovine] Xoria: crap, where is this room!

 (6 days ago)     [bovine] Xoria: ... found it

 (6 days ago)     [bovine] Xoria: ine never mind my silly self

 (6 days ago)     [bovine] Xoria: er never mind sigh

 (6 days ago)     [bovine] Enra: So imo search should be reworked a
bit, at least at lower levels. IF you don't know it you can easily be
searching up to like 40 times in one room to maybe find something

 (6 days ago)     [bovine] Enra: with 0 clues about whether you're
anywhere near the thing you're trying to find

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Peeon: what is this problem?  when ever I
type a command on tboss, it says (escape char overriding context
handler)

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Earthshaker: I've seen that happen before
years ago, but can't do it again. My best guess is see history and view
what's being sent to the mud.

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Pug: has the incarnate spell been changed in
the past 6 months?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Pickles: oh yes

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Pug: it seems to die super fast now

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: incarnates and aspects are a work
in progress and  will be for a while.  Email issues to fax.

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lepanther: I thought it's armor was
increased, but maybe it was lowered?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Pug: ok thanks

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lepanther: just make sure you were using
full clev when you made the incarnate :P

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Pug: i did, i have not used an incarnate
foer awhile and can't remember it being that weak

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lepanther: *nod

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Pug: but never new it was under work

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Firewolf: where is the nearest spellkeeper
on the mainland ?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Sandman: ralnoth

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Sandman: where sell

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lepanther: spell keeper, like a priest that
sells spells or gold?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lepanther: for*

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Firewolf: i have to buy a spell from a spell
keeper

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lepanther: Yeah, I had that task yesterday
too

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Firewolf: i found them thanks to sandman

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: I know people will probably ask:
there's some invisible changes, too. Morpheus will probably be putting
one into play shortly

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Papi: nice

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lepanther: fun

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: sounds ominous

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Vanzan: can we get a hint tho

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: most of the code I pulled was
patches and other minor shit

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Simo: punch dmg now blunt?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: MY MOM IS BLUNT

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Simo: i see what you did there

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Pickles: snicker

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Pickles: you know you knew that kid

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Pickles: oops mischan

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Papi: rofl

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: did raise undead exp get cratered?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lepanther: I'm not sure, got just above half
my cap when I raised a bit ago

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lepanther: actually, I got exactly my half
cap

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: When things go bump in the night..
When you see spirits and don't know what to do.. Who you gonna call?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: morpheus?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: the spiritbusters!

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: new job givers in ralnoth and
elborat 

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Eggweard: woo!

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: oh cool

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lepanther: nice

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: jobs available here.. 1 - bust a
ghost 

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lepanther: Ya

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: I did an event like this one year
and thought it would be a neat job.

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Naul: jobs you reject don't show up on job
completed anymore

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Sandman: never have that I know of.. they
were just wiped.

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Sandman: marking it complete if you rejected
seems  odd.

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Naul: hmm maybe. i do remember checking the
timer on those like that but i'm not 100% certain

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: who ya gona call?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Vanzan: um

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Vanzan: The Mask of Hecate, Total levels:
176 (and 39 mage), Comp: VITREOUS, GLASS, Weight: 20 CRYSTAL ARTIFACT
LIGHT GLOW ANTI_EVIL ANTI_GOOD MAGE , HEAD, ABSORB_ICE by 2,
NECR_CAST_LEVEL by 1, MANA_REGEN by 6.0, MANA by 9, CAST_ABILITY by 2,
AGE by 19, Quality: WELL CRAFTED, Spells on item: continual light, ,
This item is bound to my account.

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Vanzan: since when is 6 a thing?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lepanther: might be a minor shift from the
new level

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lepanther: or maybe one of them invisible
changes that were talked of earlier :p

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: who ya gona call?l

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: erm

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Nessie: um?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: didnt mean to send that a second time
lol opened my mobile client and accidentally hit enter and it was the
last command sent

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Nessie: noice

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lepanther: You run into a closed door. That
really did hurt! I suppose I should be greatful that the builder took
that trap off lol

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lepanther: though it woudl've been kinda
exciting

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Earthshaker: That would've been just funny!

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Martin: advanced tactics cant have thief
skills right?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Wu: no martin, just cross tactics

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Martin: lol there's a tactic that i tryed
evry skill but didnt finish

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Martin: that's why i asked

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: that mask of hecate is an amazing
random

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Wu: some skills have to land for them to
show up in tactics, if that helps you martin,  

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Wu: like if you dont land the leap, or
something like that, then it won t show up  in the tactic

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Martin: i know

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Martin: i tryed evry skill somehow, and none
of them didnt work

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Wu: kk, riptose can be one that is hard to
land due to it pending a parry

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Martin: i guess i'll try 1 more time maybe
i'm skipping osmething but i'm prety sure that i tryed evrything

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Martin: evin disarm it failed like 20 times
p

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Wu: but also, it also depends on when you
started learning the tactics too, prior to when they changed the skills
in tactics, leap is broken, i think your tactics are early enough that
they might be broken. but they  might have fixed that too, but i had to
actually reset wu's tactics because of that

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Martin: um i play way to long maybe...

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Wu: they might have fix that though? but
they also told me that i was wrong about that, even though i wasnt at
the time.  so dunno

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Martin: well, not  sure who to ask

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Wu: hosnestly not sure either

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Wu: but i do wish you good luck in fiding
it!

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Martin: thank you mate

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Wu: the skill that is lol

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: use the list on the wiki, I think its
up to date and should have all the skills able to work in a combo. Its
worth knowing that just cause you dont have a skill doesnt mean it cant
be in yo

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Martin: sure. help page isnt the same?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Martin: because it tels all the skills so
yeah

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: if it is the same then use it, I just
recall it not having a skill list and the wiki did. I cant really read
a long help file right now cause Im on mobile heh

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: anyways make sure you know all the
skills cause even skills you dont know can show up in your tactics too.
You prolly do know all of them but yeah

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Martin: nod bro, i tryed evry skill it has
and none of em worked so ya

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Martin: yes i'm pretty sure i know all the
warriors...

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Martin: blarg

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Sasami: wait why isn't punch an impact?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: because nearly every other blunt
dtype was impact

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Sasami: o I see.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: impact means that the weight of the
weapon is concentrated on the striking surface, like a hammer or an
axe, doesn't fit with punches so much unless you've got arms like
popeye

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Sasami: so what kind of attack is punch?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Sasami: like if you wear claws they should
be slice right?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: yes, your unarmed attacks will change
depending on what your hand gear has

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Sasami: aha

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: claws are an edged damage type

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: help basic damage

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Sasami: so is there anything that's vuln to
punch type attack?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: read the help page

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: since I wrote it, I have already
answered your question

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Sasami: I"m looking uit over a second time

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Sasami: didn't see it in the first but maybe
I missed it.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Sasami: I"m almost afraid to ask but for
clarification's sake, is punch pound type then?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: that's like asking if a rhombus is a
square

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Nessie: rofl

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: the answer is no, but they are both
quadrilaterals

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Firewolf: is it ?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: in this case, pound and punch are two
different damage types, but they are both of the blunt type

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Sasami: ok that's what I was looking for.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Sasami: indirectly answered my question,
thanks.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Naul: "The 'ashow dented' list should now
take personal denting into account" is this a different command than
just area dented?

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: would be fantastic if 'show snipes'
also shows which ones you're missing

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lokar: eh I kinda get it but also not so
sure it would be that useful since it's not like you can target a
specific snipe really

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: LOKAR LOKAR I HAVE MUSAK VIDIO 4 U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rzB9-Wd67A

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: oh god its all the power ranger
colors for the outfits

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: and now the synchronized dancing

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: including the white ranger?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Hyro: where can i drink from a stream or
river for task?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Monolis: type drink

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Hyro: oh ok, thanks, I actually typed drink
river haha.

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Runner: suggestion: if the fear spell
succeeds, but the mob does not leave the room, result in a severe
demoralization

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Runner: either from failing flee or just not
fleeing

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Morpheus: that go for players too? 

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Hyro: does combat point gained in group does
not count for the task? or its a bug?

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Morpheus: might not since its your task and
not the groups.

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Morpheus: but I am not sure.. Never  tried
to run anyhting task wise in a group other than gcast.

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Hyro: I kinda vaguely remember it does take
cp acquired in group as task previously. Let me try cp solo,

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Sport: does anyone know what level you have
to be to start seeing daily task lists?

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Sport: never mind

 (6 hours ago)    [bovine] Firewolf: this task rest a while by a fire
is broke.. is there a way to make sure i do not get it?

 (6 hours ago)    [bovine] Firewolf: everytime i get it the thing does
not work properly

 (2 hours ago)    [bovine] Judas: You can't empty corpses containing
unbinding equipment.

 (2 hours ago)    [bovine] Judas: there are like 50 things in this

 (2 hours ago)    [bovine] Judas: could I transfer everything from the
corpse to like a tensor or something

 (2 hours ago)    [bovine] Sirand: is there any binding eq in there? 
never really understood those rules.  i've seen people do it before

 (2 hours ago)    [bovine] Judas: no it's just junk for a sac job

 (2 hours ago)    [bovine] Sirand: sac the entire corpse.  you will get
credit for everything inside

 (2 hours ago)    [bovine] Judas: ok

 (2 hours ago)    [bovine] Judas: thanks

 (2 hours ago)    [bovine] Sirand: that was a very helpful change a
while back.


 

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