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Creation Date: Fri Aug  2 08:37:25 2002
Channel Name:  bovine

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 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: so, there's two situations where
they have split storage. they are either partitioning a single drive
into multiple volumes to help organize the OS separately from just
storage, or they actually have two drives.  if it is just drive
partitioning, you can fix that for free using a program called disk
genius, a little risky, but if it was a huge deal that is a possible
solution. can also make the small partition bigger and shrink the
larger one

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: yeah,  a lot of desktops don't.
you can use an external adapter though if they want to provide it

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: its 2 things..  one is an actual
hard drive.. the toehr is   a flash drive of terabyte.

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: gotcha

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: my old pc guy  explained that
much.. we ahd plans to get a new ahrd drive and this and that. but he
just  kind of vanished.. 

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: it's pretty obvious when a desktop
has WiFi though, they use external antennas, or at least the ones I've
worked with did. mind you, all the desktops I have recent experiences
with are ones I built and not ones I bought from hp or dell or what
ever

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: yea  my  old new pc it went right
to wifi  setup.. 

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: I guess wifi was there on the new
pc, but the button or anyhtig  wasn't usable higlighted  or something 
when he was talking  to the  other tech

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Cornish: well i am going to do what i
normaly do with my p c and just pretend its all fine till it stops
waves all

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: if that were the case, he could
get the driver using a different device and use a flash drive or
something similar to copy the driver installer over. weird that they
have so many problems. are they getting you brand new machines or do
they refurbish them

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: no this is brand new..  it just
don't ahve the wifi.. or that part would be  lit up and the button
suable.. 

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: copy that

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: Cornish, I get it. I kinda do the
same thing. I don't think too much of Windows11 so the computer I'm on
at the moment is a desktop I built and it has windows10IoT on it that
is supposed to be supported until 2032. I'm sticking with this as long
as it will go

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: the laptop that's coming does have
windows11, but it's has an arm64 processor and those are best on
windows11. it's been a long time since I got a laptop, and I thought
since I'm so comfortable with my desktop the way it is and the laptop
is just a backup I'll get an arm64 one so I can experiment

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: so, the one that doesn't have the
WiFi, they're taking that one back and getting you a different one that
does, right?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: no their ordering a edternal
adapter.. which will take  approx 4 to 6 weeks.

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: no their ordering an external
adapter.. which will take  approx 4 to 6 weeks.

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: what the fuck man, I could get one
to you in 3 days off Amazon, it's not rocket science. 

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: yea, but its  government work..
gottta go through their people and  you know how that goes.

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: oh. services is government? that
makes slightly more sense

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: state yes

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: so, until then, it's just a
paperweight

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: you do have no ethernet access at
your place then?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: as long as I am working they will
continue to pay  for my jaws and  new  stuff I need for work.  I have 
hardwire, but only one and that is connected to this pc.. and  I don't
dare touch anyhting  for this pc.. its old.. its running.. running
barely.. backed up contantly.. 

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: is the new one close to the old
one?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: about  2 feet away.

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: and the router or what ever it is,
only has a single ethernet port on it?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: that is kinda unusual

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: the thing is a lot of the wiring
and stuff going into my old pc is old.. its touchy..  yes but that is
across the room.. most  only do wifi now. 

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: if that old one had WiFi you could
just swap them. if the WiFi works, seems like no risk if you're afraid
to unplug the Ethernet, you know the WiFi works. or, if you don't know
that you could turn WiFi on and connect it to your network and then
disable the Ethernet adapter. it's up to you though, but if it were me
I'd want my desktop on Ethernet more than WiFi anyway

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: my old pc don't ahve wifi

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: I don't think it was an option
back in 2000

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: well, hopefully the old one keeps
on tickin' on for 4 to 6 weeks

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: the old one  is what I sue for aa
only and word doc.. 

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: it was pretty uncommon. my 3002
doesn't have it

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: err, 2003 rofl

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: you still running gMud on the old
one

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: yes  gmud..  office.. aa and
windows all running on this mahcine.. 

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: I can't do email.. use internet..
nothing  works with xp it seems anymore.. 

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: did you get to mud any on the old
new one before it gave up?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: I hate mush.. I tried to set it up
 and could enver get it to work like gmud..  and  for some reason it
kept  resetting thigns I set back to default.

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: gotcha. I  used gMud first also. I
eventually migrated to Monkey Term and I'm still on that and it's
almost as old. 2003

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: and I guess  the scripts for my
gmud  are too old to work  with jaws 25 which i was using when I tried 
settting gmud up with it..  I don't want ti to talk  when i type.. I
only want to to talk when new info comes in.. 

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: there a ton of extra stuff that is
there that gmud don't read  or ignores  when I up and down arrow.. 

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: might be able to help with that
when the time comes. you're just wanting typing echo to be turned off,
possibly you also don't want the typing to interrupt the incoming text
readout?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: right

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: there's a couple of settings in
JAWS for that. then the only tricky part is getting it to interrupt for
the inter key though so you'll hear the response of typed commands if
you prefer that

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: but as said I set this all up and
it was clunky but kind of working, then next tiem I logged in all I set
 was back to default.

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: rude

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: no I want incoming  info to over
ride anyhign  else.

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: if that makes sense.

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: even the inter key won't interrupt
it?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: I don't think so 

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: my preferred setup is, no typing
echo, and letters and numbers don't interrupt speech, so I can be
listening to stuff coming from the mud while I type. only when I push
enter does the speech be interrupted, so that I quickly hear the
response of that command I just typed in

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: I go into pc mode and just  up
arrow to see what I last typed.

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: right, that's one factor. but what
I'm suggesting is that having enter key interrupt speech means that you
hear what the mud says in response to your command, without having to
wait for any previous reading to complete. it lets you somewhat hear
what's going on while you type but it also stops you getting super far
behind since it makes you hear the latest thing happening every time
you push enter

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: I don't think mine does that.. I
think it jsut keeps reading  

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: no just tested I hit enter a few
tiems  and it did nothing.. I could hit ctrl which i normalyl do 

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: gotcha. in that case, there's two
settings in JAWS, no need for scripts, that turn off typing echo and
turn off typing interrupt. what ever client you get, that's a good
start on consistant behavior to gMud, then all you have to deal with is
how to get speech output from the mud lol

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: do you have lots of triggers and
such you don't want to lose?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: my biggest issue with mush is I
don't like the fact  that another is in control of my client.. I am
basic simple.. I don't need all the flash and bang.. I don't need
soudns.. I don't  need music etc.. like it simple gmud is as simple as
can get.

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: if I mvoe gmud over to new pc I
can just copy my world file and  move it to new pc too.

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: let the man like what he likes, yeesh

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: we're all here on a game that went
live on 1995

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: yeah, but can't get your screen
reader to work with it, right?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: will gMud run on new hardware?

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: yes It will I think.. I think I
just need to make a few  jaws changes to make it work how I want.. 
won't know till I get new pc though.

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Mathayas: interesting. I'll try and stick
around and keep an ear out

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin@stellar aeon: la la la

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin@stellar aeon: I got one terminal
crunching away on a molecular dynamics problem, one terminal with a
claude in it refactoring an enzyme searcher dealy, another couple of
terminals trying to teach me the R scripting language while also
learning about biotech research software packages, and another one
trying to figure out why a script is broken

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin@stellar aeon: also the stellar aeon
lore code is currently wedged until I get time to think about what's
going on there

 (5 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin@stellar aeon: modern computers are
neat

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: looking at telnet stuff at the moment. I
see that AA is sending WILL Echo and then DONT Echo. my client is
responding with DONT Echo. this happens when AA wants me to type my
password. then AA says WONT Echo and then Do Echo, and the client is
sending DO Echo. Then when I get logged the rest of the way in, AA says
WILL Echo and DONT Echo. I keep the set echo off mud-side here, so it's
telling the client not to echo text after I log my character in.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: the question that I'm running into, is
how do mud clients conventionally detect when it's a password prompt,
and mask the input field appropriately? I'm having some success by
detecting when it's a prompt with the ga character, and if the word
password is found anywhere in the last chunk of text. but in order to
make sure it returns to normal input reliably I have to detect when
it's not a prompt and conditionally check to see if I need to switch
back to standard input

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: which feels really inefficient

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] runion@stellar aeon: that doesn't make sense
my client never echos commands when logging into either aa or this mud
why does it do that I mean most modern mud clients let you just hit up
arrow to see reasont commands even tintin does that

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: mush seems to not save my password
when logging on here as a recent command, so

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: WILL Echo means, "I will handle echo".
the server sending that is supposed to tell the client to let the mud
echo your text back, and then it just doesn't actually echo the text
back obviously when you are typing a password

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: whilst my name is, so that seems to
indicate that it can tell the difference I guess... Out of log if i
accidentally type the password as my name though, lol

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: yeah, it only sends WILL Echo when the
password prompt appears, and then immediately sends WONT EcHO after you
type it in

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: out of luck even

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: makes sense

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: WILL Echo makes the client stop handling
echo locally. WONT Echo makes the client start handling its own echo
again. because it's like ok, I will echo so you don't do that ok? Or,
I'm not gonna be handling echo so you do it now

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: as it probably appears, I think I have a
good grasp on that aspect of it, I just can't figure out how they're
handling the character masking, actually showing a password input box,
where you characters you type are all ***

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: does mush z do that?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: mush does not make them asterisks,
no. It just doesn't store it as a recent command. IDK if other clients
do that though.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: yeah, I probably need to research that
some more. If it is uncommon, I can get the proper behavior that you
say mush z has pretty easy, so that's reassuring at least

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: sorry mush. habit

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: yeh can't have mush without the z!

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] runion@stellar aeon: no it doesn't, if what
yall are saying is true, when I type in my password to login to aa, it
should send my password back to me but it doesn't so it's sending iac
will echo but not actually doing what it says it's going to do? or
maybe my understanding of echo is wrong?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: it's slightly backwards sounding. when
the mud sends will echo, it means hey client, I'm gonna handle echo
now. then the mud asks for your password, you type, and the mud client
isn't going to echo that or keep it in command history. the mud, even
though it said it will echo from now on, isn't going to echo your
password lol. that's how they accomplish it

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: so yeah, after rereading your message,
that is exactly what it does, it lies

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: this is just for typing your password
mind you. it will turn echo back over to the client by sending wont
echo after your password is entered

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: and, if you don't have echo while
playing and you would rather that you had it, AA at least has set echo
on, or set echo off, which negotiates with the same iac bytes when you
type them, so set echo on will make it tell the client to start
echoing, by sending a wont echo to the client

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] runion@stellar aeon: oh I see. I think
theres also a mud specific protocol like mxp or mccp that other muds
use

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: for masking passwords? or you just mean
in general

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: oof, this is probably a question for
Dentin

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] runion@stellar aeon: both

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: oh, yeah, there's some special sauce
in the socket here, looks like it lives way down in the core libraries
where I fear to tread

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: Well, that's gotta be the more
bovine posts over the course of 24 hours than alter has had in the last
week, maybe two

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: All I ahve to say is -- I want
windows virus protection to be put in a washer and dryer and maybe once
it comes out it'll start behaving once again.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: THose words do not adequately
describe my displeasure at Windows protection right now

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: windows virus protection has served me
well for years.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: Nod, I'm sure if I didn't have
third party crap it would work fine... but I've been told to not trust
base windows protection-- so, here we are. I'm fien with that... what
I'm not fine with is excluding files and yet their not excluded form
cleanup... tried to run a program in the go language. It said that it
wouldn't execute because it was scared of malware or unwanted
software... all I was doing was printing a signle line. THis was the
case both before and after excluding

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: I don't even know what most of that
last part means. Do you

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: No, I suspect if I udnerstood I
would have already fixed it by now :(

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: rough time

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: Yeah. At least McAfee is more
accessible than webroot

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: I have a little trouble with that with
the normal windows security, but the last that I heard was that in
earlier days, windows security was not super good, but that now days it
has just about as good a protection as all those other things, like all
using the same protection files anyway

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Coyote: I havn't sued anything for the last
8 years other than windows defender and MB

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: I've not really used anything but the
windows builtin version since microsoft security essentials originally
came out

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Deadinator: Oh wait, thought char names had
to be more than 2 letters?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: think because it was 2006 it was
allowed back then

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: made in 2006 so before the limit

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: yeah

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: there's an ax, or used to be, from them
old days too

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: still is nod

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Coyote: I think ax still plays

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: yup they've been somewhat active
at least, ax's still top 3 on leader 9

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: oh also cu, right? but restrung to cu
chulain or what ever later on and I have no idea what now but I think
they had to rename again or something

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: still cu. profile cu

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: ah yes they have a fight string
from back when that was a thing lol

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: Demon does too

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Coyote: the only person who I know that has
a fight string that is a little active is demon nods

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Coyote: the other inactive was elemental

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Tane: demon

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: doa

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Tane: Haven't seen them in a hot minute

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: oh wait doa's is gone now

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Coyote: elemental is also gone or i'm
typoing

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: Player 'demon', last login Thu Feb 
5 00:30:00 2026

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: didn't special ed have one from way, way
back when?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: there are some people with
capitalization ones like specialed

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: an drock

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Coyote: haha I remember Drock

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: oh also thrash

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: thr?sh

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Coyote: DRock

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: thr?sh was kinda annoying to be around
in heavy combat back in tyhe day when we didn't have everything all
spamfiltered

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: Ground string: SpecialEd is here
yelling 'YAY!!!' at the top of his lungs.

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Coyote: I want to be a Coyote

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: it's 2026, you can be whatever you
want

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: ground string yeah, I guess it's the
fight string that's the most fun

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: nod

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: I'm on this instead of Mathayas for now
cause Mat is about to go neutral, idled too long with eq on without
realizing eq was on

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: If I could special mine, I'd be le
jaguar, but I think everyone would be annoyed at that too

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Coyote: that sounds a lot better than what
it is now with the reader

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: for sure

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: the problem is that some of them
would say l e jaguar instead of luh jaguar

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin@stellar aeon: luhjagwar

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Flamestar: just wondering why do i have
backstab at the end of my attack combinations?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: that seems backstabwards to me

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: read the tactics list upside, that
surely is the answer

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin@stellar aeon: probably worth sending
mudmail to sf

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: mudmail shadowfax

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Flamestar: thank you i was not sure what to
do

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: heh luhjagwar and luhjaguar sounds
the same to eloquence

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin@stellar aeon: lets see if claude can
figure out the problem with backstab in combo attacks

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Flamestar: i figured out my problem that my
list of attacks were on 2 different lines so it actually starts with it
not ends with it. sorry my mess up

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin@stellar aeon: so it's not in the
wrong place?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Flamestar: no sorry about that

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Flamestar: i am working on leveling my thief
to 40 and my warrior to 39. If i level the thief first will the micros
for the warrior cost more even though i already have some micros on it?

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: yes

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: er, no

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: right now your war is 38 and your thief
is 39. leveling thief to 40 right now won't change the cost of warrior
that is already 2 levels below 40. 

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Flamestar: it wont change the cost of the
micros for warrior after thief is at 40

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: not to get level 39 warrior

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: level 40 warrior will be more than thief
was, but you knew that already

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: the cost is always how many classes are
at the level you're trying to get

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Flamestar: yes i understand that part. i
just thought when u level up a class the other will increase in cost

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: you'll already be trying to get the
second level 39 once you begin working on it, even if you don't level
thief first. make sense? it's how many you already have at the level
you're getting. things already higher level than the class you're
working on don't matter

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: type levels

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: it might clear that up

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: actually, it won't. uh, there was a way
to get it to show the cost breakdown

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: yeah, I think it was levels, I think it
used to have a way to show the cost for secondary class and on
downward. 

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Flamestar: Thief        39   6/ 12    
27000000   (100%)   <- You can level! Warrior      38   8/ 25    
49000000   (100%)   <- You can level!

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: getting a micro, or all of the micros,
for 40 thief won't make warrior 39 cost more. the only thing that might
matter is whether you'd rather get level 40 warrior first as it'll cost
a good bit more to get the second level 40

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: it's fairly simple. like I said already,
the calculation of cost is litterally how many classes you already have
at that level already. if you're getting your third level 39, it'll
cost more than your second one did. etc

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Flamestar: i am asking i have 8 out of 25
micros already will the 9 through 25 cost a different amount after i
level thief to 40

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: no

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] It: not sure how to make it any clearer

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: it won't change so just level how you
want

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Flamestar: ok thanks for the help

 (4 days ago)     [bovine] Ivey: the only time you would see a change
is if you level one class above another one

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Keign: The belts that you craft like
chainlink or coin, don't have the keyword belt on them.

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: interesting

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: umm

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: Am I tripping or is there someone on
the who list without a name

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: [ 35 106  Cd]   It's soooo big! I'm
serious! 

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: the player name is "it"

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: oh huh

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: I did not know that you can set a
title such that there's no space between it and your name

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: the title parses the apostrophe so
that it doesn't have a space between the name and the apostrophe

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Deadinator: I still wonder if there's a way
to clear a title once set.

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: Makes sense, I have never noticed
that in my 15 years here

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: yes. just set it to ~o

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: I believe it is title null

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: ~o is I believe the blank ANSI
character or osmething

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: something

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Gillic: or just type title and over ride the
old one

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: heh null did not work

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: try ~o

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: that's o with a tilda before it

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: ~o also did not work

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: huh

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: sorry, 

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: it's ~o with the o capitalized

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] It: you could do like I like to do and
complain about how you can't figure out how to set your title

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] It: in your title

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] It: I've actually had people reach out and
try to help me set my title before. roflrofl

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: lawl

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: Oh man your char is old, I was
wondering how you had a name with just 2 chars

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] It: that is how yes

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] It: I normally play Mathayas, but he's about
to go neutral, I idled with eq on for like a week without knowing I had
eq on

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] It: so, It it is until I get round to fixing
that

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Xzibit: Yeah I remember you from Cyber
Assault

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: rofl which is hilarious because if
you've written a title than you obviously know how :P

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] It: lol yeah I put Mathayas in my area iirc

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Lejaguar: I've seen that title before

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] It: I did it with skype mood messages back
in the day too

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] It: damn, I have a mudmail on here from 2012

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Potato: share it with us

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Potato: jk 

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] It: it's from somebody named Brandon. I have
no idea who Brandon is

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Binmonkey: Hi, this channel was suggested to
me by someone in newbie.

 (3 days ago)     [bovine] Binmonkey: hello

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Arlis: is there a command to forget a
waypoint?  I skilled through the kobold town and grabbed the pellam wp
before going back to finish the kobold area quest.  And the next part
of the quest is pray at the pellam wp but i already ahve it and cant
finish the quest.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Arlis: skipped not skilled

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Rodri: waypoint delete  and then the number
of it on your list

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Arlis: thanks

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Dizzy: *teleports* the latrines. You're
kidding.

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Draak: nice to see the
teleport_dizzy_into_toliets() function is working properly

 (1 day ago)      [bovine] Almaric: :)

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Darkblood: I am affected by infravision at
level 14 from object 'a blue jade-spangled red cotton mitre with a
hackmanite-spangled red angora ribbon'.

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Darkblood: however, the spell falls juts
regularly

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Darkblood: has anyone else inencuntered the
same behavior

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Darkblood: infravision has 3 hours remaining
at level 14

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Darkblood: oh alright, got it figured out:
When being affected by infra that is  higher lv than the objects infra
is, of course the higher lv infra with a wear-off timer remains
unchanged. However, show spell infra displays not the timer, but the
object that casts it formally on you, although in this case it doesnt.
Possibly happened by the string cleanup change put in recently. Going
to bug log it

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Morpheus: what are you  crafting with perm
spell on it?

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Darkblood: enchant thermography

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Darkblood: was a tailored hat i enchant
thermorgraphied before doing anything to it

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Darkblood: custom strings on the tailord hat
display correctly now though

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Darkblood: think u and me had a convo about
these a week ago

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Morpheus: oh hmm need to kep that in mind..
need to remind  draak of that.. I think there was a suggestion that
perm spell items not be reforgible.

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Darkblood: nod

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Darkblood: although in this case i didnt use
reforge, jut ordinarly crafting + enchant skills

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Darkblood: love enchant thermoography, this
char didnt have maintain (possibly not ven infra) as I made it

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Morpheus: the only problem is it can still
be dispelled..  then gotta remvoe and rewear.

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Darkblood: nod

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Darkblood: which can be annoying in the dark