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Creation Date: Fri Aug  2 08:37:25 2002
Channel Name:  bovine

(note - most recent messages are displayed at the bottom)
 (11 hours ago)   [bovine] Tux: I seem to remember reading something
about that on the Orca list actually, but can't remember.

 (11 hours ago)   [bovine] Runner: I found the same page, but they said
there was a fix... apparently there aint no fix

 (11 hours ago)   [bovine] Runner: or at least I think I did - back in

 (11 hours ago)   [bovine] Tux: does speech-dispatcher still work?

 (11 hours ago)   [bovine] Runner: The person was using braille, but
Orca doesn't autodetect braille displays so there's no way for me to
interface with the system

 (11 hours ago)   [bovine] Tux: actually, if you wanna connect to
cowsay, so we don't clutter up bovine with this lol

 (10 hours ago)   [bovine] Lexie: heh if we ever need a level 38
warrior skill I suggest microdragon slaying.

 (10 hours ago)   [bovine] Kuranes: *pokes tiny dragon with a toothpick
so it falls over on its back, squeaking angrily as it tries to get up*

 (10 hours ago)   [bovine] Kuranes: *stomps*

 (10 hours ago)   [bovine] Kuranes: easy kill

 (10 hours ago)   [bovine] Lexie: actually was thinking more an use
dragon lancing on smaller dragons

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: where is everyone?

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: there used to be tons of high
level players on the mud

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Kuranes: Player 'everyone', last login Tue
Oct 10 14:20:00 2017

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Everyone: right here

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Colonel: leaving now that your here

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lokar: I killed them all and buried them in
my backyard

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Everyone: no you didn't 

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lokar: I did too

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: can't I ask a simple question
without getting a sarcastic remark?

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Kuranes: hey, bury some in my backyard too!

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Kuranes: no

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lokar: now stfu and get back in your hole

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Colonel: the answer to that is, of course,

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lokar: sorry only sarcasm here

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Kuranes: imagine I said that no in a really
sarcastic way

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Meccano: it was a staggering vague and
genral question. How did you expect people to answer

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: honestly

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Kuranes: you can't be honest and sarcastic
at the same time?

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: no

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Kuranes: huh, TIL

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Meccano: honestly people only know about
themselves or a coupel people. noone is gonna be able to tellyou where
everyone is

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: that is the type  of answer I was
talking about

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Kuranes: that didn't really answer your
question though

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: true

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Meccano: i suspect it was aleading question.
what was the real question you wanted to ask?

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: it was the real question

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Everyone: you can add me to friends

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: is it because of the exp changes

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: the 1.2 trn level exp

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Sirand: seems so

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Meccano: you then went on to say about high
level players so I suggest you were looking to make some sort of
commentary about the state of the game

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: I was not

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: I was speculating

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: I asume the exp caps, skill exp,
and other general exp will need to be adjusted to fit the new exp

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: I wish dentin would refund the
31+32 microlevels of 10 mil I spent on 31 and 32 necro

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Zanthian: no takebacks!

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: I only needed a fraction of that

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Everyone: so do all of us

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Meccano: and you said  it wasn't a leading

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Meccano: blah

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Everyone: ok gift me

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: I said it wasn't originally
intended as such

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Kuranes: so, nice weather, huh?

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Zanthian: gifting everyone would make me
bankrupt foh sure

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Red: DON'T LET THIS DISTRACT YOU FROM THE

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: wow

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Meccano: they wouldn't last 5 minutes here..
not with teh exp system the way it is

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: who

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Meccano: the A team

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Dentin: a software test engineer walks into
a bar and orders a beer

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Zanthian: OMG

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Dentin: a software test engineer walks into
a bar and orders 0 beers

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Dentin: a software test engineer walks into
a bar and orders 999999999999 beers

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Dentin: a software test engineer walks into
a bar and orders -1 beers

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Dentin: a software test engineer walks into
a bar and orders a lizard

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Gandor: i'll just have *010101

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Rhorae: haha

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Dentin: a software test engineer walks into
a bar and orders jklvewhv

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: do they sell lizzards at bars?

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Zanthian: forget that, do they sell 999999

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Kuranes: I always get a lizard in my

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: prob not

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Meccano: was he stress testing the bar?

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Dentin: it appears that somebody isnt
getting the joke

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Rhorae: and are the beers on the wall

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: was he running benchmarks?

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Rhorae: good one dentin

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Zanthian: was he selling back beers

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Red: I like OJ

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Alixandria: I like AJ

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: thanks btw

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Zanthian: i hate tj

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: about the exp,

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: the new system makes botting a
necesity imho

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: if it is fruitful in getting exp

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: if I knew how to do it, I'd set up
a bot, and run it 24/7 on my pc to generate billions and billions of

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lilmike: lol I dind't remember necro being
around around then 31/32 costed a bunch heh

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lilmike: when

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: it was changed around june 2011

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: necro came out in january

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Rain: the skill system has new limitters
that at least in some way curve the bot exp unless your bot is like
killing mobs

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Rain: dentin has promised us all a fix to
the exp system, it's not fair to continue beating a dead horse, though
I'm a tad hypocritical since I was wining about suboria earlier. 

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Alixandria: why would we beat a dead horse
or a live horse, thats just rude

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Rain: why it was ever fair to beat a horse
in the first place is a more important question.

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Kuranes: poor horse

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Rain: lets all debate this

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Zanthian: to go faster

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Zanthian: it's the old fashioned gas pedal

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Alixandria: WHen zan goes too slow i'll just
smack him

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Zanthian: not without moving from that chair
you're not!

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: what is broken currently with the
exp system?

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Kuranes: you tell us

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: from the chat, I believe it is
group exp?

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: I also think exp caps

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lokar: that depends on who you ask

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Kuranes: didn't you just say it was better
to bot?

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: for the massively high levels

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: yes

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: obvious

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: there is no way to run the
fifth-sixth class high levels without playing alter 24/7 for years

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Kuranes: I guess you'd have some idea about
what's wrong with it then, if you feel that

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: which basicly means that anyone
with a life cannot

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lokar: group exp has been broken for like 10
years if what players say is correct, its pretty much never been ok.
Player level costs are to high cause its impossible to get all 37s but
thats dentins goal

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Red: yawn

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Rain: there's not a single ccap solo in the
old suboria racks, a mob starts to dent after about three kills. those
are some examples but I've got hope that it'll get worked out some day.

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: why is it dentin's goal

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: why not just stop players from
choosing a class level after a point instead of having massive costs

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Colonel: Cleric       32   0/ 80   
150000000   (  7%)

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lilmike: well

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Red: rofl rofl rofl

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lilmike: one there's a tiny, tiny chance of
getting it, the other there's 0

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lokar: solo exp is also supposedly broken
and has been always, but Id say thats pretty subjective since I suck at
runing exp and can run exp way be5ter nlw than I ever could

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Rhorae: I'm less bothered by the
astronomical high costs as I am by how inconsistent exp is. But I think
Dentin want to fix the latter

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Red: remember those days with groups on gr

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Red: we arn' getting any  hardly ever

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Zanthian: remember those days when we had
high level players

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Red: yea

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: fifth class 37 costs 230 bil

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lilmike: or fifth class 37 could be

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: what is wrong with having 7 37s

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lilmike: I know which I'd pick

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: six

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Red: but i don't care about higher players,
i already became high player already

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Arbus: Holy moly.

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Red: 37 37 37 37!

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Kuranes: 5299663136500 xp for hex37

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Red: nothing new i haven't done before,

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lokar: dentin doesnt want peopke to be able
to max out, the idea I think was to have players always have leveling
goals, which backfired by having goals becom3 unobtainable by high
level players pretty fast which basically caused the same problem as
having max levels to begin with.

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Red: make lv 38, add some new spelsl skills,
everyone's happy

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: I mean maxing out is ood

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lokar: I dont defend the level cost changes
I think they are pretty extreme. I do tease people who think solo exp
is even remotely hard though

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: good

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Red: heh

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Kuranes: solo exp is fiiine if you can be
arsed to run

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: with the crafting, people will
never run out of stuff to do

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: even with maxed levs

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lokar: I couldnt tell you if group exp is
bad though cause I havent grouped in a long while

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Red: really?

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Donya: is there even a maximum level?

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Rain: theghost, good job opening that can of
worms, but I think you can see now why a lot of the high level players
either went with new characters or went off to play something else. I'm
certainly getting more use out of recall than ever before. and I love
running groups. I just hate finding out who ran what and when and all
of that trying areas with bad exp

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Rhorae: I never saw what's bad about it
taking 5-6 years to totally max out. I can't think of any other game
that takes even close to that amount of time to max on

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Red: you get exited over crafting?

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Rhorae: er being able to max in 5-6 years
that is

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Kuranes: I get excited over crafting

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: I see

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: I also am seeing more use in

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Red: 37 in 6 classes is maxxed

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Zanthian: i just find it surprising and
upsetting that the level cost changes happened almost immediately after
westie achieved max level

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: and I can certainly see why
players left

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lilmike: simple psychology, dude

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Zanthian: like dentin didn't bother doing it
before because he thought it was impossible to max and one person doing
it somehow made it possible for everyone to get it

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: I am just having fun with crafting
and perminently training pracs

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: have no leveling goals atm

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: working on academic stuff in rl

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Red: still don't get why he likes noobs
more, apparently they bring in more money

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Rain: it's an entire year and we're not done
complaining about it. as the levels continue to drop into the event
season it will either get revisitted or chars above tot 100 will fall
by the wayside. sad stuff.

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lilmike: to be fair, there was another
person a few micros away, but 

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Red: would think older plays would pay more

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: I am wearing a fair Elvis, king of
the vampire bats skin bracer on my wrist.

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: I am wearing a great sun-bather skin
bracer on my wrist.

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: how can you not love this?

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Zanthian: i want to see more skin shryth

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Red: all flavour what is stats on them

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: if it was so unachievable, I
would've liked to become hex 37

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Red: because if it's jsut for flavour, i'll
just go into my nvda dictionary  and rename the eq to soemthing amazing

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: particularly the druid boneman

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lilmike: but if it's actually achievable ou
dno't care?

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lilmike: you don't

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: but it isn't

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lilmike: it was though

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lilmike: so why aren't you

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: previously I could work with 1.5
bil exp and level any class to any level

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: which was dramaticly more
achievable than it is now

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Lilmike: yes, but are you saying when it's
not possible, or practically impossible it makes you want it more?

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: who cares about the stats on your eq
if you have no reason to run?

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: my mage levels are the same cost,
but if I want to max up cleric, that is where the costs start balooning

 (9 hours ago)    [bovine] Theghost: possibly

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Talina: third bug, potentially. Trying to
make crossbow parts, and after you pour the crucible's contents into a
mold to cool, nothing happens

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: You cut a tiny phenomenal skin from
a red kitsune, then quickly scrape the back and oil it.

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: <3

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Talina: ... oh, dear

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: don't worry, it didn't suffer...for

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Talina: shudder

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: so, anyone... what's the difference
between crosshilt, basket hilt, round hilt and square hilt?

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Myrel: basket can hold the rest of them?

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: also, a way to see how much it would
cost to forge an alloy would be grand

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: You do not have enough of gold to
make electrum.

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: erm

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: uh, nvm, I need to learn how to read

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: You melt down the base metals in the
crucible, blend them well and then pour the mixture into a mold to form
a bar of electrum.

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: yay

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: You finish fitting the rim in place,
and heraldic snowflakebloodwood tower shield is complete!

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: uh...should that lose the article?

 (4 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: WTB tensor market or non-anonymous
bidders on auction

 (4 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: You count 4 gold coins. You get a
bed of gold.

 (4 hours ago)    [bovine] Runner: rofl

 (4 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: must be some huge coins

 (4 hours ago)    [bovine] Jasondo: four golden fifty cent pieces

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: More adept at metallurgy.

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: oh neat

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: Better at forging items from metal!

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Draak: Shryth licks all the dirt off of a
platinum spoon.

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Wickie: are you having the issue that your
metal disappears. or the item disappears while forging? or did that get

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: having no issues

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: total 127 (very uncommon)   HELD, , 

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Wickie: cool

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: this spoon is only for the smarties!

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Draak: what are you making, Wickie? there's
a known issue with crossbow parts

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Wickie: I only heard it as hearsay from a
third party Draak.  I don't know if they were trying to do crossbow
things or not. 

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Wickie: for all i know, whatever was
happening was a normal fail issue

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Wickie: sorry I don't have more info. I
encouraged the person to submit a bug report to you in case it was an

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Draak: not a problem

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Draak: this is my baby, I intend to make
sure its properly burped

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Wickie: I hear you on that. if I get more
specific info I'll pass it along

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Jasondo: how do you even burp one anyway

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Draak: hold them up or over your shoulder
and pat them on the back firmly

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Wickie: you put them up on your shoulder and
pat their back, or else put them in your lap sitting up and lean them
over your hand in their belly

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Jasondo: lol I just asked that question, on
skype with alisha, she just burped, shortly after I hit enter. :P

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: I couldn't live without that info

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Jasondo: it was just funny

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Wickie: I'm having fun playing with the
archery skills so far. i wish i had more pracs. I"m missing so many of
the base skills

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Wickie: hmm are all player created quivers
16 lb capacity? I seem to have gotten that amount every time I've made

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: I have one that's...uh...sec

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: 27

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Wickie: ok so I just haven't gotten lucky,
or used the right stuff

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: 70 for this one

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Wickie: what's your skill level?

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: 100%

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: My skill level is level 30 thief,
level 37 warrior.

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Wickie: that's the other issue then. I'm
still only at vg. 

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: the 27 one is from Fenrir, the 70 is
from Sei'Saarak

 (3 hours ago)    [bovine] Wickie: gotcha

 (2 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: Iron pyrite ore is not a type of
purified metal you can work with.

 (2 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: ooh, combine, not forge combine, lol

 (2 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: nvm

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Serkanal: where is badboy

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: You lick a bronze-studded of
phenomenal winged dragon elf skin boots.

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Jasondo: badboy badboy, what they gonna do

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Shryth: methinks some strings be broken

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Jasondo: tosubmit or not to submit, that is
the question


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