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Creation Date: Fri Aug  2 08:37:25 2002
Channel Name:  bovine

(note - most recent messages are displayed at the bottom)
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 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Sandman: skeletons have rights too runner..
shouldn't   go around insulting them!

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Asclepius: importnat to use the period as in
insult .skel if just doing one or when using insult 1.skel. That way
you guarantee to be insulting your own skeletons and noone elses

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Asclepius: but a sure fire way to know what
skels you have is to make sure you specify when creating them. cast
skel war sword etc

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Vissari: why cast skeletal mage doesn't pick
the lowest Hp mage and replaces them ?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Vissari: just tested it

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Vissari: instead it replaced my zap mage who
has a full health

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: It's not worth while to replace a
skeleton like that. Just recast them when they die, for the same cost.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Vissari: the skeleton i'm replacing has only
9 hp, better as well as replacing him right now outside of combat.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: consume ftw?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: or heal it directly, if you really
need it to survive.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: cure crit costs less than mage

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Vissari: cure crit ? what's that

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: heal, sorry

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Sandman: now whats called  heal

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: old name for one of the heal spells

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: dating myself

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Sandman: it still works via that name. 

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Jamesc: well wish me luck i am taking on the
smerf stronghold

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Vissari: never heard of that command, i just
use c major or heal minion name.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: are you attacking the smurf nipples?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: It used to be cure light, cure
serious, cure critical, and then heal.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Sandman: watch for papa smurf

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Jamesc: yep

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Jamesc: well here goes 

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Jamesc: i hope i can survive

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: A question for anybody familiar with
cryptography: presumably, if you take a given piece of data and encrypt
it twice, same key, you'll get the exact same result (i.e: hashing the
two cyphertexts results in the same hash). Am I accurate?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: Or are there algorithms that cause a
result to be different, even if it decrypts to the same thing?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Kuranes: I would assume so, but I don't know
much about cryptography

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Jamesc: i love this place so far

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: nods, me too

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Jamesc: yay i have so far survived

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Jamesc: wish me luck i am taking on the drow
city

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Metallica: good luck

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Jamesc: so far haven't lost my skel warriors

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Kehlani: this might be more of something to
put on chat

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Kehlani: btw

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: you can show acid, but not brag acid

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: plz add

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Lilmike: There am no currently enabled bonus
classes.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: so?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Metallica: any chance we can hav xmas
mutated cats this year

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: will the mining bug in groups be
foxed soon?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: fixed too

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Kehlani: rofl

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Kehlani: ^

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: You turn over a stone and find a
fox.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: that's how you fox it

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Kehlani: !

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Mayhem: You find a gold tooth in the gutted
carcass of Fahhad's mouth and carefully extract it! (Looks like there
is 2 coins worth of gold.)

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Heracross: roflrofl

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Heracross: score

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: bonus

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Mayhem: yeah, that's a pretty cool feature

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Mayhem: never seen that before

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: is the 3000 randoms found
achievement still in game?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Sirand: Wilt made it but died shortly after

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: did blindness and blue dart change
in parsing order?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Colonel: did you even try it?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: yeah

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Colonel: then there's your answer

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: well, so why has been this change
then

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Almaric: because of blue dart going obscure?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Morpheus: the world changes.. 

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: heh neato

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Kuranes: ?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: the change in the parsing order.
unforseen consequences.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: the codebase is vast and intricate

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Kuranes: I, for one, welcome our new code
overlords.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: WTB skill like hone, but for damroll

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Human: so, how come I don't see "cost" when
i id items?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Human: in relation to converting, and help
convert

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: Use the spell

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Human: makes sense. thanks.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Human: and how exactly does the sacrificing
to convert work? can I sacrifice a ton of stuff fast and be able to
convert?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: something like that, yeah

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Jamesc: nope

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Runner: you sacrifice enough gold value and
you convert, if I'm not mistaken.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Human: jamesc, explain?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Jamesc: that is how it works

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Jamesc: certain corpses you can't sac

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Human: thanks runner, ill go with that
unti... nvm. thanks runner it is heh.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Human: oooo

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Human: Your god is displeased that you're
sacrificing donated equipment!

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Human: welp then.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Human: Does sacrificing mob corpses with eq
in them count Runner?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Jamesc: i did that my first time if you get
items from ememies you can sac them

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Human: Can I sac the entire corpse instead?

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Jamesc: sometimes yes sometimes no 

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: Wrath of the Forest has no real room
for improvement.

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: damage, balance, hone... none work
:(

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Peroroncino: yeah i spent around 300k gold
to find that out last month when i thought i could improve some items.
but instead of advancing them it's pure RNG and may end up with lower
damage than you started with

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: yeah

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: I even disenchanted the 10 hitroll
on this one to get more weapon comp

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: ages ago

 (2 days ago)     [bovine] Shryth: had hoped to carve more damroll

 (1 days ago)     [bovine] Rhorae: Are there any plans to make
reinforce armor be done at forges, like balance/hone/customize weapon?

 (1 days ago)     [bovine] Mertag: Oh ear, don't give them ideas :P

 (1 days ago)     [bovine] Rhorae: the other skills are better off for
it :P

 (1 days ago)     [bovine] Mertag: Are they? I haven't actually used
them successfully since the change heh

 (1 days ago)     [bovine] Jezrien: nods

 (1 days ago)     [bovine] Jahmeir: if its going to reduce the gold
cost for reinforce, i'm all for it, lol

 (1 days ago)     [bovine] Mertag: Point

 (1 days ago)     [bovine] Rhorae: I see jahmeir understands me

 (1 days ago)     [bovine] Mertag: Yeah I didn't know cost had
decreased, sorry heh

 (1 days ago)     [bovine] Rhorae: plus it just makes logical sense

 (1 days ago)     [bovine] Dentin: chapter 37, or "my spleen is
supposed to be on the inside"

 (1 days ago)     [bovine] Draak: yes, there are plans for making
reinforce be a thing at forges and probably cost somewhat less. Not on
the fast track right now

 (1 days ago)     [bovine] Gisella: wish you guys would put the level
of the steal in the  steal message for  soul steal

 (1 days ago)     [bovine] Sabermage: so i can only brew pots with
around 8 spell comps no matter how much is in my inv???

 (1 days ago)     [bovine] Zanthian: think that's the limit

 (1 days ago)     [bovine] Sabermage: kk cool

 (1 days ago)     [bovine] Lexie: correct. 8

 (1 days ago)     [bovine] Sabermage: thanks

 (1 days ago)     [bovine] Jezrien: it is. 8 is also the limit of how
many spells you can get onto a brewed potion

 (16 hours ago)   [bovine] Metallica: what are the benefits of buying a
clan table guys?

 (16 hours ago)   [bovine] Metallica: or is it just decoration purposes

 (16 hours ago)   [bovine] Peroroncino: it's extremely useful for
organizing, holding, or sorting through stuff from what i've heard. or
as a workbench for crafting. it's like a miniature storage for all your
stuff. i believe that Draak said he was going to make it work like a
donation pile so you can even use 'list searches' with it too

 (16 hours ago)   [bovine] Metallica: o neat

 (16 hours ago)   [bovine] Morpheus: its like no other container. its 
around 60 foot with like a 10k cap. and nod  draak was working on
making it possible to  use  list switches  which wasn't possible with a
table before.

 (16 hours ago)   [bovine] Metallica: nod sounds really cool

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kehlani: this mining fix is great. thanks :)

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kehlani: though the "go rogue" thing was a
bit confusing at first read. I interpreted "go rogue," as someone
hoarding everything, not literally going rogue/leaving the group lol

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Blackrose: lmao

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kuranes: lmao

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Metallica: You can't excavate that, it
belongs to someone else.

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Vissari: only group leaders can mine them ?

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Colonel: yep

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Colonel: so only follow group leaders you
trust

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Vissari: the more members you get in your
clan the slower clan dues disappear ?

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kehlani: update to the mining wording:
others didn't seem to understand it, either. glad it wasn't just me

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kuranes: so, only group leaders can mine
deposits now or???

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kehlani: that's what it looked like to me

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kuranes: cause the wording really kinda
suggests that, lol

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kehlani: it does

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Colonel: lol

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kuranes: so going rogue just means... what?
unfollowing?

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Rhorae: yeah

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Lilmike: I am forced to assume there's a
non-explicit "and group members can mine group leader owned deposits"
in there somewhere, but that's just an assumption

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kehlani: apparently

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Blackrose: yeah think so

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kehlani: but like

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kehlani: when I read that

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Rhorae: unfollowing and excavating
everything with impunity

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Colonel: actually i read it as  the whole
group could prospect but the deposits were owned by the leader which to
me would mean that only the leader could excavate them

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kehlani: exactly col

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kehlani: that's what I read, too

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kuranes: I thought it just meant they
couldn't just go nuts and mine all the deposits themselves

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Lilmike: yeah that's how it reads
explicitly, but that makes no sense so I"m force to assume what I just
stated

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kehlani: nod, kuranes

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kehlani: honestly, that wording could be
clearer

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Metallica: why would you want to mine in
groups anyway

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Blackrose: exactly

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kehlani: every person here had different
interpretations of  it rofl. I appreciate the fix itself, to be clear

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kuranes: lmao

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kuranes: because some things can only be
mined in group areas

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Asclepius: somtimes in groups there is
downtime and mining is a good pasttime

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kehlani: nod

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Kehlani: and that

 (15 hours ago)   [bovine] Shermanator: some areas, high level ones,
you can only get to in a group so some like to mine those hard to get
items

 (14 hours ago)   [bovine] Ivey: can you get better at the thief listen
skill?

 (14 hours ago)   [bovine] Kuranes: what?

 (14 hours ago)   [bovine] Peroroncino: yeah but you need to use listen
<direction> many many times to get it leveled

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Juggernaut: bov why does this not make
sense.  The corpse of a purple sea dragon is lying here. yet i get A
huge sheet of scales from a sea green water dragon when i skin it.

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Blackrose: strange

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Juggernaut: things that make you go hmm

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Juggernaut: yet i get this also: You drop
purple sea dragon scales.

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Xorg: where's that from?

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Juggernaut: You are in The Inner Sea of
Suboria.

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Xorg: ah

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Morpheus: seems all  water dragons are green
 

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Kehlani: huh

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Blackrose: go figure

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Morpheus: seems all  water dragons are green
 

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Morpheus: nod same with brown and  gray too

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Juggernaut: yep. just killed a violet and
get same sea green sheets

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Juggernaut: lol. i just looked at the sheet.
it says: This hide came from a violet sea dragon.

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Juggernaut: and if you id it the top line
says: gargantuan violet sea dragon sheet scales dragonscale

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Morpheus: nod  maybe the word  green should
just be remvoed from that.  so it just says a sea dragon. 

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Juggernaut: yet if you just list it or look
at it on ground then it says the sea green string

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Morpheus: removed

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Juggernaut: works for me

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Juggernaut: problem i just noticed. the
sheet has SAVING_BREATH by 20%. but it should have zap save on it

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Morpheus: check more skins maybe their all
jsut save breath for sea dragons. 

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Colonel: why should it have zap save

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Juggernaut: doing sow now. thanks

 (13 hours ago)   [bovine] Juggernaut: my bad. i assumed on the zap
save. and i assumed wrong. sorry for that

 (12 hours ago)   [bovine] Juggernaut: I killed 3 dragons there. a
pale, a violet and a purple. when you look at the skin it does report
the correct type of dragon one killed. but when an item has been
crafted it now says: It's a tower shield made from the scales of sea
green water dragon. has id of sea green water dragon tower twoshield.
and this was a skin from a pale dragon 

 (12 hours ago)   [bovine] Colonel: seems ok to me in the grand scheme
of things, but you could mudmail your info to draak and see what he
says, he's the crafting guru

 (12 hours ago)   [bovine] Juggernaut: nod. thanks

 (11 hours ago)   [bovine] Human: hotkey for turning sounds on and off
in dclient?

 (11 hours ago)   [bovine] Metallica: the wyvinian stronghold has been
sucked dry of minerals

 (11 hours ago)   [bovine] Blackrose: ouch

 (11 hours ago)   [bovine] Human: I don't understand how convert works
now -frown-

 (10 hours ago)   [bovine] Theo: its the blood thing

 (10 hours ago)   [bovine] Theo: wrong channel

 (8 hours ago)    [bovine] Clashzork: I wish when we level we would get
10 partices instead of 5

 (8 hours ago)    [bovine] Faithfulwolf: Lol

 (8 hours ago)    [bovine] Leos: when you take micro level into
consideration. you will have 10 practice. sometime more per level

 (8 hours ago)    [bovine] Colonel: my current level i'm working on
requires 40 micros, i get a prac every other micro, so thats 20 pracs
right there, plus the five for the actual level

 (8 hours ago)    [bovine] Clashzork: I only get like 8 parctices when
I do my leveling

 (8 hours ago)    [bovine] Runner: You don't have the expensive micros,
then. Try training pracs instead.

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Runner: Remember that there will be a point
where you need to stop levling to train pracs. This is normal.

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Runner: leveling*

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Colonel: thats around tot 153, and
technically you don't have to stop levelling, just that alot of people
decide thats the best time to train a bunch of pracs so they can train
their stats up a bit

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Clashzork: but when to cost or practices get
higher

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Runner: Prac cost=most expensive micro/3.75

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Theo: i believe pracs cost wont increase
untill tot 155

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Clashzork: ok

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Peroroncino: lol

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Peroroncino: prac cost at 154 total right no
for me is 1.33m

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Peroroncino: 13.3m *

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Clashzork: then I wonder if I should or
train practices I am 36 necro and I don't know if I should level or
just train

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Theo: tot 141 and still 10m, maybe it
increases after a sertain micro cost

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Clashzork: my level are 134 so will my
practices still stay at 10 mill

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Runner: Level is irrelavent, level cost is

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Vissari: clash, depends

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Clashzork: on what

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Runner: Please replay and get the formula I
gave you.

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Vissari: do you have all the spells/skills
you want? did you max intellect and wisdom?

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Clashzork: not yet my int and wis are 25 but
with eq it i 34

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Colonel: runner, your formula is useless if
they're 20 levels below the approximate level

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Vissari: i recommend you to get all stats to
23 or 25

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Runner: erm

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Runner: Prac cost=most expensive micro/3.75,
min cost 10m, max cost cap*80

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Runner: where min overrides max, if your cap
is super low.

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Colonel: anyway clashzork, you won't need to
worry about training pracs until you get to around tot level 152 or
152, then if you want you can apply the formula and decide if you want
your prac cost to go over 10 mil or to stop levelling and train pracs

 (7 hours ago)    [bovine] Clashzork: ok

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Draak: ahh, okay, so the water dragon thing
was keying onto the word "sea" and crossing it with "sea green" in the
color table. I'll disallow "sea green" as a color for dragon hides

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Draak: scratch that, will change it to
'seafoam green' so it doesn't latch onto it

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Kehlani: oo

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Draak: heh, did we get meaning of the mining
change sorted out? I can see why there's confusion

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Kehlani: not that I know of

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Lexie: was there? i thought i understood it,
but perhaps I'm confused.

 (5 hours ago)    [bovine] Dizzy: makes sense to me. That fixes the
darn pesky grouping and mining issue

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Balbus: credit buy clantable. What the fuck?

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Balbus: Well, to each their own I suppose.

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Slej: You know, I still have no freaking
clue what that is

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Slej: oh, there's a help file now. How much
is the table?

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Balbus: help clantable appears to tell me
it's just a regular table.

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Slej: nod

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Balbus: 1000 credits

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Slej: uh

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Slej: for a ... table

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Slej: ok

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Balbus: I know. SMH

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Leos: thats a 10$ right there

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Slej: that is literally the biggest money
grab I have ever seen. Lol

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Balbus: You know what they say, time is
money. We need a table to put that money on.

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Sport: lol. the word multiple for the help
file on clantable is misspelled

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Balbus: Oh, I just noticed that.

 (1 hours ago)    [bovine] Balbus: :P